If there is ever any credible threat to Trump from the "deep state", look for the money trail back to George Soros.
What Trump is trying to inspire with "Make America Great Again," George Soros is trying to undermine for personal gain by shorting America. He and Robert Reich.
Hey, back in the day--in the '80--I watched that speech by Bill Clinton and knew what he was. For that reason, I knew that I would never vote for him. And I didn't.
I never voted for Bil Clinton. Full Stop.
That was hard, at the time. Still, I did not do that.
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I also never voted for Barack Obama. I did see, listen to, and pay attention to that speech he gave at a convention (much as I had, in 1988, to Bill Clinton's).
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I get why you folks have precisely --0-- use for me.
That said, my question to you all is: Why, exactly, do you think I don't care about all of you? That I've never gotten stuff? That I don't get stuff. That I've never experienced stuff. And, also, that I've not kept to myself (which means: I've never been a betrayer) that which I have?
So Soros funded Paul Ryan. Trump desperately needs a tax cut to jumpstart the economy and I just read that Ryan says he doesn't think the House can get around to passing a tax cut this year. Interesting.
The duopoly takes care of itself. Trump went from being establishment to becoming the anti-establishment candidate. As he said many times, "I know how the establishment works." The next and probably most important step in taking back this country is establishing more political parties..more choices.
rcommal says: I get why you folks have precisely --0-- use for me.
It isn't that I have zero use for you. It is that I cannot understand what you are trying to say. If you could be clear instead of being purposely obtuse. Instead of writing in riddles. Instead of referencing things and conversations that obviously have some meaning to YOU but to me (since I can't speak for anyone else) are a complete mystery.
Instead of attempting to be a mysterious, secretive, puzzle you could try to say what you mean.
Instead....you could be an interesting person to have a dialogue with or exchange some views.
Some people are just too tedious to interact with. You are one of those in my book.
Soros is funding the return to feudalism. Tax and regulate the peasantry so they cannot rise then set them against each other with the Soros-selected state mediating the results and punishing the losers.
I used to have a neighbor who would send emails to the neighborhood list serve and they were kind of disjointed and it always seemed as if he was having a conversation with someone and we were only hearing part of it. They would begin and end abruptly, assume that we knew what he was talking about, try to get us involved, but they were always odd messages. He wasn't quite as paranoid as some, and perhaps he was a bit more lucid, but he never quite connected, for whatever reason.
He moved to NYC and I am sure he fits right in now.
Actually, they should be beaten over the head with it and made to live with it; given a choice, support the Trump agenda or be crucified (actually, those two are not mutually exclusive).
ndspinelli said...
The next and probably most important step in taking back this country is establishing more political parties..more choices.
No, the last thing we want is a parliamentary system. If you look at the Constitution and the whole electoral College thing, it really mandates a 2 party system.
Amartel said...
No Soros funding accepted by Cruz
Yes, but he did take a big piece of change from McConnell.
Remember how swell things worked when Ross Perot went third party. It was less, "Vote for me" that it was "Vote against Bush". That's still a coalition.
If there is ever any credible threat to Trump from the "deep state", look for the money trail back to George Soros.
What Trump is trying to inspire with "Make America Great Again," George Soros is trying to undermine for personal gain by shorting America. He and Robert Reich.
Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen! And don't forget to return your tinfoil hats at the end of the show!
"Instead of attempting to be a mysterious, secretive, puzzle you could try to say what you mean."
I get tired of these cryptic - "Say no more types" - both on the internet and in real life. I had a co-worker like tha, the guy could NEVER say anything straight out. He was always talking around things, beating around the bush, dropping "clues", etc.
I finally figured out he did it to make himself seem smarter and more important than he really was.
Commander Crankshaft said...How many were on the Kochs' dole?
The Kochs were united against Trump, and made no secret about it. Soros money funneling to Ryan and Rubio is news. Come back to me when you learn that Soros (your personal favorite billionaire) funded Trump and Sessions. Personally, I hope that the Soros connection wrecks Ryan's and Rubio's aspirations unless they denounce their unique and malevolent benefactor.
BTW, are you still pushing the idea that opposition to Soros is anti-Semitism?
I'll take Soros's money, or Koch's, or even Ritmo's lunch money if I ever run into him. If you want to know why or how, just ask rcommal to explain it.
The Kochs were united against Trump, and made no secret about it. Soros money funneling to Ryan and Rubio is news. Come back to me when you learn that Soros (your personal favorite billionaire) funded Trump and Sessions. Personally, I hope that the Soros connection wrecks Ryan's and Rubio's aspirations unless they denounce their unique and malevolent benefactor.
Blah blah blah let's pretend Trump isn't implementing the same corporatist Republican agenda as they always implement. You are blind.
BTW, are you still pushing the idea that opposition to Soros is anti-Semitism?
@Ritmo: Your third link, the HuffPo one, makes my point exactly. I will take it at face value that your logic is: Trump disses Soros and Yellen; Soros and Yellen are Jewish; therefore, Trump is anti-Semitic. So are still pushing that silly logic.
The real news of this story isn't that gullible HuffPo fans like Crankshaft think that Trump is anti-Semitic. Rather, the news is as edutcher roted this morning at 10:53.
@Ritmo: Your third link, the HuffPo one, makes my point exactly. I will take it at face value that your logic is: Trump disses Soros and Yellen; Soros and Yellen are Jewish; therefore, Trump is anti-Semitic. So are still pushing that silly logic.
Three wealthy Jews. Foreboding music. Part of a global cabal. DUh-duh-dun!
Right! That's just the kind of ad for people who don't confound themselves with bizarre conspiracy theories about Jews out to get them. Again, just ask David Duke. Or people who do things like this on Twitter.
The real news of this story isn't that gullible HuffPo fans like Crankshaft think that Trump is anti-Semitic.
Right. Trump. It's Commander Bannon who did that, the media manipulator who loves him some dog whistles. Oh, that's right: You think politicians and their advisors are angels who NEVER prey on people's fears and hatreds - whether they agree with them or not - for the benefit of their candidate at the ballot box. Which would put you at odds with three prominent Republican strategists who apologized for doing that very thing. But hey! Fuck it! Maybe that's something you're expert at, too. You're really good at understanding how people function socially, aren't you?
More likely, your wife has to give you advice for how to seem friendly at a party.
How many didn't survive the Holocaust because of Soros? Has anyone ever put a number on it?
Oh. Does it number in the millions? That's right, the Nazis weren't very ambitious about that sort of thing. Just couldn't have pulled it off without other Jews. Hell! Maybe just go ahead and blame the whole thing on them. After all, that's what your buddies did.
I'm sure there were Jews who stole and hoarded bread at Auschwitz and Dachau and chickenlittle's ready to prosecute them for theft and - why not - murder, because who knows how many cases of starvation it hastened.
The real crime is what those Jews did to the other Jews, in this analysis. Every survivor is suspect. Stolen bread. Hoarded soup. People who went into the "wrong" line. Boy oh boy! Fraudulent survivors all around. Get them!
You exaggerate. It's probably dozens or so. His confession gave no clues as to how long he collaborated and how many Jews he fingered per day.
As an armchair psychologist, I'm tempted to say that Soros is motivated to this day by guilt over his wartime acts. But I reject that unfounded suspicion. It's much more clear that he thrives on creating chaos in financial markets and funneling the profits into creating more chaos. He's a veritable entropy machine.
It's much more clear that he thrives on creating chaos in financial markets and funneling the profits into creating more chaos. He's a veritable entropy machine.
He doesn't create it - he exploits it. Much like a hacker exploits security risks in a company's bungled IT infrastructure. What happens is the smart companies then go on to hire the hacker to help them fix their cybersecurity.
Social order is an illusion that RWAs take to the point of delusion. Society is inherently messy. As it should be. But that doesn't mean our financial markets have to be chaotic swinging casinos. Soros seems to be able to point that out to minor economies. But the U.S. is apparently too powerful and corporately controlled to allow its own financial markets to be smartly regulated. Why, Trump already is looking to repeal Dodd-Frank. There you go. Just the kind of deregulation your guys want, need and are notorious for, and just in time for another near-depression. Instead of strengthening it as they should, they're looking to pare it back as dramatically as before.
Now you tell me what the proper response to that is. Assuming you care or have even thought about it.
I remember Republican commenters at TOP telling me that holding back the nation's economy for political gain while Obama was implementing the recovery was fair game.
There is one piece of Soros factual trivia out there which I've not been able to locate: It was an interview with a brother (or brother-in-law) in which the relative says (paraphrasing): "We don't know what went wrong with George." It's from at least 10 years ago. I'm not making it up.
No, I don't wish he were dead. I wish he would get caught for racketeering.
If he does disrupt governments are they authoritarian?
Objection: Vague. Levels of Government are impacted: local, state, federal. They cannot all be "authoritarian."
Does he disrupt governments as egregiously as our very own CIA do all the time? I would say that they both strive for secrecy. That's getting harder and harder.
Protip: Most countries are not federalist but unitary. The authoritarian score applies to the nation as a whole but usually wouldn't have any reason to be broken up the way you suggest. Authoritarian regimes by definition aren't wont to have varying levels of freedom depending on the regional unit contained within them - as they aren't wont to vary their freedom by any parameter.
It is not the same with Steve Bannon. Whatever he himself thinks is immaterial. He knows how to get the votes he wants and he knows who to go after to scare them up. The GOP has a LONG HISTORY of using bigotry to get bigoted voters to the polls, and then implement policies that are not very enlightened. Three of their strategists admitted doing the same thing to blacks, and they're doing a little song and a dance routine in the same vein to scare up the votes of people who think Jews seek to control the world at everyone else's expense. To deny that there are people who think like this and that they're happy to vote for Trump for the very reasons that Bannon's targeting them for is laughable. Look at the pro-Trump Twitter feeds of people who attacked (((Jeffrey Goldberg))), Julia Ioffe, and even little Ben Shapiro. People for whom ending some Jewish conspiracy to control the world is a motivating factor actually vote, and to deny that they think their candidate is Trump, and that he's happy to have their votes, is naive - or wishful thinking. And according to political strategists, political malpractice. Of course they're going after those votes. They're going after them as happily as they're going after the votes of people who think sharia law is on its way to replacing the constitution.
I wonder if young George Soros fingered any Jewish children in Budapest (figuratively, not literally). Probably, because as a child he knew his fellow children better than their parents.
I don't know any and I don't know of any. Throw me a link. Are they as insidious as Soros and his money?
Try any of the Richard Spencer links I threw you yesterday. He believes in racial separation and a Euro-American "ethno-state." And then there are all the wackos on Twitter who target Jewish figures with pictures of Auschwitz prisoners, references to ovens and the famous motto on its gates. I think that's at least as insidious as some guy "and his money."
How is your gripe against Soros all that different from the folks who profited off of shorting the American housing market? Are they the sort of evil that you visualize him as?
Revolutions and currency speculation are not all that unrelated. How much more likely was a revolution in America in 2008 than at other times?
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If there is ever any credible threat to Trump from the "deep state", look for the money trail back to George Soros.
What Trump is trying to inspire with "Make America Great Again," George Soros is trying to undermine for personal gain by shorting America. He and Robert Reich.
Those who do not learn from history are cursed to repeat it...
He's come a long way since working for the NAZIs.
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It's hard to be strong, and don't I know it.
So sad to see that chickelit has, at last, gone all weak.
Hey, whatever.
So it goes.
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Hey, back in the day--in the '80--I watched that speech by Bill Clinton and knew what he was. For that reason, I knew that I would never vote for him. And I didn't.
I never voted for Bil Clinton. Full Stop.
That was hard, at the time. Still, I did not do that.
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I also never voted for Barack Obama. I did see, listen to, and pay attention to that speech he gave at a convention (much as I had, in 1988, to Bill Clinton's).
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I get why you folks have precisely --0-- use for me.
That said, my question to you all is: Why, exactly, do you think I don't care about all of you? That I've never gotten stuff? That I don't get stuff. That I've never experienced stuff. And, also, that I've not kept to myself (which means: I've never been a betrayer) that which I have?
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Because, in fact, i have not been a betrayer. In fact, I have kept in confidence that which was I was told in confidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr5WmuO2zBg
Stick around.
Congress may not open any investigations, but Sessions is another story.
So Soros funded Paul Ryan. Trump desperately needs a tax cut to jumpstart the economy and I just read that Ryan says he doesn't think the House can get around to passing a tax cut this year. Interesting.
Ryan is a traitor.
This little insight can now be used to turn up the heat on these people.
The duopoly takes care of itself. Trump went from being establishment to becoming the anti-establishment candidate. As he said many times, "I know how the establishment works." The next and probably most important step in taking back this country is establishing more political parties..more choices.
rcommal says: I get why you folks have precisely --0-- use for me.
It isn't that I have zero use for you. It is that I cannot understand what you are trying to say. If you could be clear instead of being purposely obtuse. Instead of writing in riddles. Instead of referencing things and conversations that obviously have some meaning to YOU but to me (since I can't speak for anyone else) are a complete mystery.
Instead of attempting to be a mysterious, secretive, puzzle you could try to say what you mean.
Instead....you could be an interesting person to have a dialogue with or exchange some views.
Some people are just too tedious to interact with. You are one of those in my book.
Agree, DBQ.
Soros is the goatshit which is used to compost the root of all evil.
The name has Dickensian qualities: Soros, Sorrows. So many sorrows follow from Soros.
No Soros funding accepted by Cruz, Walker or Fiorina I hope/am glad to see.
Soros is funding the return to feudalism. Tax and regulate the peasantry so they cannot rise then set them against each other with the Soros-selected state mediating the results and punishing the losers.
Did they know the money was from Soros?
Shouldn't they be asked to give it back and disavow?
I used to have a neighbor who would send emails to the neighborhood list serve and they were kind of disjointed and it always seemed as if he was having a conversation with someone and we were only hearing part of it. They would begin and end abruptly, assume that we knew what he was talking about, try to get us involved, but they were always odd messages. He wasn't quite as paranoid as some, and perhaps he was a bit more lucid, but he never quite connected, for whatever reason.
He moved to NYC and I am sure he fits right in now.
Actually, they should be beaten over the head with it and made to live with it; given a choice, support the Trump agenda or be crucified (actually, those two are not mutually exclusive).
ndspinelli said...
The next and probably most important step in taking back this country is establishing more political parties..more choices.
No, the last thing we want is a parliamentary system. If you look at the Constitution and the whole electoral College thing, it really mandates a 2 party system.
Amartel said...
No Soros funding accepted by Cruz
Yes, but he did take a big piece of change from McConnell.
More than 2 parties does not mean paliamentary. False choice, edutcher. You are sol establishment.
In this case it does.
Remember how swell things worked when Ross Perot went third party. It was less, "Vote for me" that it was "Vote against Bush". That's still a coalition.
Oh boy! 24 comments! Yeay!
How many were on the Kochs' dole?
Oh yeah. You guys don't care about that.
If there is ever any credible threat to Trump from the "deep state", look for the money trail back to George Soros.
What Trump is trying to inspire with "Make America Great Again," George Soros is trying to undermine for personal gain by shorting America. He and Robert Reich.
Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen! And don't forget to return your tinfoil hats at the end of the show!
"Instead of attempting to be a mysterious, secretive, puzzle you could try to say what you mean."
I get tired of these cryptic - "Say no more types" - both on the internet and in real life. I had a co-worker like tha, the guy could NEVER say anything straight out. He was always talking around things, beating around the bush, dropping "clues", etc.
I finally figured out he did it to make himself seem smarter and more important than he really was.
Commander Crankshaft said...How many were on the Kochs' dole?
The Kochs were united against Trump, and made no secret about it. Soros money funneling to Ryan and Rubio is news. Come back to me when you learn that Soros (your personal favorite billionaire) funded Trump and Sessions. Personally, I hope that the Soros connection wrecks Ryan's and Rubio's aspirations unless they denounce their unique and malevolent benefactor.
BTW, are you still pushing the idea that opposition to Soros is anti-Semitism?
I'll take Soros's money, or Koch's, or even Ritmo's lunch money if I ever run into him. If you want to know why or how, just ask rcommal to explain it.
The Kochs were united against Trump, and made no secret about it. Soros money funneling to Ryan and Rubio is news. Come back to me when you learn that Soros (your personal favorite billionaire) funded Trump and Sessions. Personally, I hope that the Soros connection wrecks Ryan's and Rubio's aspirations unless they denounce their unique and malevolent benefactor.
Blah blah blah let's pretend Trump isn't implementing the same corporatist Republican agenda as they always implement. You are blind.
BTW, are you still pushing the idea that opposition to Soros is anti-Semitism?
Lol. Of course not. And neither were the publishers of The Learned Protocols of the Elders of Zion! Right. Enthusiastic David Duke support? Just a coincidence! And I'm sure lots of Holocaust survivors are criticized for surviving "the wrong way."
@Ritmo: Your third link, the HuffPo one, makes my point exactly. I will take it at face value that your logic is: Trump disses Soros and Yellen; Soros and Yellen are Jewish; therefore, Trump is anti-Semitic. So are still pushing that silly logic.
The real news of this story isn't that gullible HuffPo fans like Crankshaft think that Trump is anti-Semitic. Rather, the news is as edutcher roted this morning at 10:53.
And I'm sure lots of Holocaust survivors are criticized for surviving "the wrong way."
How many didn't survive the Holocaust because of Soros? Has anyone ever put a number on it?
@Ritmo: Your third link, the HuffPo one, makes my point exactly. I will take it at face value that your logic is: Trump disses Soros and Yellen; Soros and Yellen are Jewish; therefore, Trump is anti-Semitic. So are still pushing that silly logic.
Three wealthy Jews. Foreboding music. Part of a global cabal. DUh-duh-dun!
Right! That's just the kind of ad for people who don't confound themselves with bizarre conspiracy theories about Jews out to get them. Again, just ask David Duke. Or people who do things like this on Twitter.
The real news of this story isn't that gullible HuffPo fans like Crankshaft think that Trump is anti-Semitic.
Right. Trump. It's Commander Bannon who did that, the media manipulator who loves him some dog whistles. Oh, that's right: You think politicians and their advisors are angels who NEVER prey on people's fears and hatreds - whether they agree with them or not - for the benefit of their candidate at the ballot box. Which would put you at odds with three prominent Republican strategists who apologized for doing that very thing. But hey! Fuck it! Maybe that's something you're expert at, too. You're really good at understanding how people function socially, aren't you?
More likely, your wife has to give you advice for how to seem friendly at a party.
How many didn't survive the Holocaust because of Soros? Has anyone ever put a number on it?
Oh. Does it number in the millions? That's right, the Nazis weren't very ambitious about that sort of thing. Just couldn't have pulled it off without other Jews. Hell! Maybe just go ahead and blame the whole thing on them. After all, that's what your buddies did.
You are despicable.
I'm sure there were Jews who stole and hoarded bread at Auschwitz and Dachau and chickenlittle's ready to prosecute them for theft and - why not - murder, because who knows how many cases of starvation it hastened.
The real crime is what those Jews did to the other Jews, in this analysis. Every survivor is suspect. Stolen bread. Hoarded soup. People who went into the "wrong" line. Boy oh boy! Fraudulent survivors all around. Get them!
Oh. Does it number in the millions?
You exaggerate. It's probably dozens or so. His confession gave no clues as to how long he collaborated and how many Jews he fingered per day.
As an armchair psychologist, I'm tempted to say that Soros is motivated to this day by guilt over his wartime acts. But I reject that unfounded suspicion. It's much more clear that he thrives on creating chaos in financial markets and funneling the profits into creating more chaos. He's a veritable entropy machine.
Let's be honest. You're pissed at (((Soros))) for surviving, right? You think the right thing for him to do would have been to die.
That's really what's going on here, isn't it?
It's much more clear that he thrives on creating chaos in financial markets and funneling the profits into creating more chaos. He's a veritable entropy machine.
He doesn't create it - he exploits it. Much like a hacker exploits security risks in a company's bungled IT infrastructure. What happens is the smart companies then go on to hire the hacker to help them fix their cybersecurity.
Social order is an illusion that RWAs take to the point of delusion. Society is inherently messy. As it should be. But that doesn't mean our financial markets have to be chaotic swinging casinos. Soros seems to be able to point that out to minor economies. But the U.S. is apparently too powerful and corporately controlled to allow its own financial markets to be smartly regulated. Why, Trump already is looking to repeal Dodd-Frank. There you go. Just the kind of deregulation your guys want, need and are notorious for, and just in time for another near-depression. Instead of strengthening it as they should, they're looking to pare it back as dramatically as before.
Now you tell me what the proper response to that is. Assuming you care or have even thought about it.
I remember Republican commenters at TOP telling me that holding back the nation's economy for political gain while Obama was implementing the recovery was fair game.
That appalled me.
From now on, I know that the right in America have no morals when it comes to ushering in an economy that kills 40,000 people whenever they feel like it.
There is one piece of Soros factual trivia out there which I've not been able to locate: It was an interview with a brother (or brother-in-law) in which the relative says (paraphrasing): "We don't know what went wrong with George." It's from at least 10 years ago. I'm not making it up.
No, I don't wish he were dead. I wish he would get caught for racketeering.
There is no anti-"racketeering" law against profiting off economies made through deregulation to be inherently weak and prone to collapse.
The answer is to regulate them better.
I am referring to his alledged funding of political disruptions -- some of which crossed state lines.
If he does disrupt governments are they authoritarian?
Does he disrupt governments as egregiously as our very own CIA do all the time?
If he does disrupt governments are they authoritarian?
Objection: Vague. Levels of Government are impacted: local, state, federal. They cannot all be "authoritarian."
Does he disrupt governments as egregiously as our very own CIA do all the time? I would say that they both strive for secrecy. That's getting harder and harder.
No it's not vague. By that standard a government can do anything it wants to its people and you'd say there's nothing untoward. Here's some help:
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/freedom-world-2017
https://freedomhouse.org/report/fiw-2017-table-country-scores
Protip: Most countries are not federalist but unitary. The authoritarian score applies to the nation as a whole but usually wouldn't have any reason to be broken up the way you suggest. Authoritarian regimes by definition aren't wont to have varying levels of freedom depending on the regional unit contained within them - as they aren't wont to vary their freedom by any parameter.
It is not the same with Steve Bannon. Whatever he himself thinks is immaterial. He knows how to get the votes he wants and he knows who to go after to scare them up. The GOP has a LONG HISTORY of using bigotry to get bigoted voters to the polls, and then implement policies that are not very enlightened. Three of their strategists admitted doing the same thing to blacks, and they're doing a little song and a dance routine in the same vein to scare up the votes of people who think Jews seek to control the world at everyone else's expense. To deny that there are people who think like this and that they're happy to vote for Trump for the very reasons that Bannon's targeting them for is laughable. Look at the pro-Trump Twitter feeds of people who attacked (((Jeffrey Goldberg))), Julia Ioffe, and even little Ben Shapiro. People for whom ending some Jewish conspiracy to control the world is a motivating factor actually vote, and to deny that they think their candidate is Trump, and that he's happy to have their votes, is naive - or wishful thinking. And according to political strategists, political malpractice. Of course they're going after those votes. They're going after them as happily as they're going after the votes of people who think sharia law is on its way to replacing the constitution.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/19/in-one-year-people-have-read-anti-semitic-tweets-a-staggering-10-billion-times/?utm_term=.2dc9ac77c676
Where do you think those guys got the "America First" slogan from?
You don't think they could have checked it, first?
I wonder if young George Soros fingered any Jewish children in Budapest (figuratively, not literally). Probably, because as a child he knew his fellow children better than their parents.
Try wondering about the actual, living, breathing Nazis supporting Trump today, instead.
I don't know any and I don't know of any. Throw me a link. Are they as insidious as Soros and his money?
I don't know any and I don't know of any. Throw me a link. Are they as insidious as Soros and his money?
Try any of the Richard Spencer links I threw you yesterday. He believes in racial separation and a Euro-American "ethno-state." And then there are all the wackos on Twitter who target Jewish figures with pictures of Auschwitz prisoners, references to ovens and the famous motto on its gates. I think that's at least as insidious as some guy "and his money."
How is your gripe against Soros all that different from the folks who profited off of shorting the American housing market? Are they the sort of evil that you visualize him as?
Revolutions and currency speculation are not all that unrelated. How much more likely was a revolution in America in 2008 than at other times?
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