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Statement from Clinton camp says Clinton "overheated" at 9/11 ceremony: pic.twitter.com/TwJSjExKro— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 11, 2016
Sunday, September 11, 2016
Clinton Abruptly Leaves 9/11 Ceremony
Watching Scott Adams on periscope, he says out of all the events she could have begged of for whatever reason, this is the least favorable in terms of persuasion. Because you are asking people to make you a commander in chief. You cannot get sick at times like this. Scott Adams believes this could be the event that seals it in peoples minds that she is in no shape to be president.
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This is bad. I don't care how much of a Democrat you are, this is bad visuals. Over and over, these videos of her coughing and sometimes looking like she was about to fall over should have been taken more seriously by the press. What will the MSM do now. If they don't ask questions, but simply try to provide cover for her will make them look even worse than they already are.
The media in this country is trying to ignore it, but the members of Her Royal Majesty's Press Corpse across the pond are playing it up - Guardian and Daily Mail, especially; Sun not so much.
Lessee now, 4 years ago tomorrow 4 men were ignored to death in Benghazi.
Payback?
Scott Adams will vote for her corpse. Commie is as commie does.
It was very hot and humid in New York today. It was sweltering in church as they had the ac off.
I don't think they can cover this up.
The New York Cops saw it. With cellphone video it is only a matter of time until the video surfaces.
I hear she lost her shoe when she collapsed. That level of detail means there are a lot of witnesses and it will all come out.
Remember it is not the collapse it is the cover up.
Wow - all of 80 degrees? How do you Y*nkees endure such extreme heat?
Sixty, it could be the humidity; 80 can feel like 98 if it's that humid. Interwebz says it's 80 and humidity is 39, so that should be tolerable.
Trooper York said...
The New York Cops saw it. With cellphone video it is only a matter of time until the video surfaces.
I hear she lost her shoe when she collapsed. That level of detail means there are a lot of witnesses and it will all come out.
Drudge is all over this.
HILLARY 'FAINTS' AS SECRET SERVICE RUSHES HER OUT OF 9/11 MEMORIAL...
'Overheated'...
Stumbled off curb...
Knees buckled...
Lost shoe...
Here's the photo off Drudge.
Does she or does she not look a little woozy there?
It is hard on the old folks. She needs to rest on the porch and have some Ice cold Mountain Dew.
That'll really kill her.
The glasses were a poor choice.
Video of the collapse is up now.
I read that it was 74 degrees with low humidity.
A friggin' Mountain Dew would kill even the healthiest human. Must not allow sickly old folks to consume it.
LOL at Rabel. Heck, Ray Charles thinks those glasses were not a good choice.
Another day, another collapse. The toes of her shoes will get scuffed from being dragged across the finish line.
Rabel, ou est la vid?
Voustube?
Instapundit has it now. Give Drudge about ten minutes.
You could clearly see on the video that Hillary was going down before two security men grabbed her by both arms and put her into the van.
She might be dead.
Better, closer shot.
She was already unable to stand and had to be carried into the van. You can see her leaning backward against the concrete post, her head almost going backward.
She's had it, poor thing.
edutcher, that some bad looking stuff. How is anyone supposed to slant that into "she's ok."
Hillary losing her shoe reminded me of Archie Campbell's old spoonerized tale of Cinderella called
"Rindercella." Rindercella runs down a flight of stairs and loses her shoe:
"...when she beached the rodham she slopped her dripper"
I posted the video.
I bet there are a lot more to come. Welcome to the digital age Granny.
@edutcher: Note that her personal physician -- the mysterious black man -- is by her side.
Hillary is starting to remind me of Professor John Gill in the original Star Trek episode called "Patterns of Force." They've got her drugged and propped up.
That the one where he turned the planet into Natzis, as Kirk called them?
Allen, they can't.
That's the one. In the end, Gill was usurped by follower.
It is clearly a case of elder abuse.
The beginning of the end perhaps.
I felt so bad about watching the video of her going down, that I bought a twelve pack of beer.
Someone else can do the praying, I'm watching football. Tell me how it ends.
Dems play to win so they will replace her with Biden.
Her doctor says she is in excellent health. From health that excellent a person could die.
This calls for an even closer vetting of Huma. Clearly, it is she and not Kaine who is most closely in control of Hillary.
Yup, AJ, Hello Biden, cant' say it's nice to see you again.
Can you do that? Just say that you're replacing the person at this time?
If you remember when Thomas Eagleton had to be replaced in '72 (came out he'd seen a shrink), the Demos held a mini-convention.
I expect the same happens now. You really hope they have better sense than Biden. What they want is a black Hispanic trans lesbian Moslem.
I guess that means Moochelle.
The rules of the Democratic party will apply.
I totally agree with AJ that this is the smart play. But that would be unbelievably great for Trump. Because you know they will not be able to pull the nomination from the cold dead grasp of the Clinton machine. Hillary would never acquiesce to dropping out. Unless she was dead. Maybe not even then.
I am going out to get some popcorn.
Isn't there anything -- I mean anything -- that Obama could do to put off this year's election?
Chickie I have said this for a long time. Obama does not want to step down. I have been talking about this for a long time and people here mock me and say I am crazy.
Does that sound crazy now?
What if Hillary strokes out but refuses to step down and Trump is sure to win? Obama might move to postpone the election. The media and half the country would support him. The so called lovers of the constitution #Nevertrump will go along. The military that Obama has put in place will acquiesce. It is all setting up for an illegal usurpation of the Constitution.
Troop - I think the Dems and their lawyers will do anything to win. If they see her as a loser, they will drop her like a used condom.
Stopping the election would be difficult as there is a precedent to replace a member of the ticket (after all, we all speculated what might happen if the emails became too compromising and the possibility of Hillary dropping out for health reasons was raised) as far as the Demos are concerned.
How much of the country would really support any takeover is really up for grabs. The problem for Pissy is everybody's tired of him and many can't wait to see him go. The assumption is all the Demos are a bunch of lemmings (no offense, guys), but it seems a good many of them have seen the blush wear off the rose in the Obamanation.
YMMV
AJ I agree with you but when did the Clintons ever do anything for the good of the country or the good of their party? When did they ever give up anything anytime ever?
It will be a super colossal cage match.
Obama will take the opportunity to stay on if he can. He would get a lot of support. I bet Jonah Goldberg and Bill Kristol and George Will and Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow and Lester Holt and the New York Times and the Washington Post and the National Review will compete to help him.
911 happened on primary election day in NYC. The election was in November. Giuliani floated the idea that he could stay on until people had the right to vote in a new primary. He got shot down quick.
When Bloomberg was term limited out he went and paid off the City Council and they changed the law. It is all rigged. I totally can see that they will be happy to extend Obama's term "For the good of the Country."
Because Trump is Hitler. Haven't you been listening.
The Dilbert guy says the presidential race is over.
He kind of has a point. If Hillary can't make it through a 911 memorial how is she going to make it through another 911 attack?
Optics. Subtext. Subliminal persuasion. A commercial showing this clip 24/7.
NO! It's not over until the fat lady sings, or is it passes out, I can't remember.
Of course it is not over. They will never tear the nomination out of her cold dead fingers. It will be great to hear how the main stream media spins this tonight.
Obama will take the opportunity to stay on if he can. He would get a lot of support. I bet Jonah Goldberg and Bill Kristol and George Will and Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow and Lester Holt and the New York Times and the Washington Post and the National Review will compete to help him.
The winning argument will be that that 22nd Amendment was really only intended to affect white Presidents.
LOL! We have our wacky right wing Oliver Stone here. Always spinning Carville like. We aren't some insular Brooklyn home boy bumpkins. Why the fuck go wacky. There's plenty substantive material here. Wait, new Reality Show audition?
Whoop there it is. The pompous assholes who dismiss what is a real possibility. That Obama will disregard the Constitution. Just as he did with immigration decrees. With the IRS. With passing treaties without the approval of Congress. And the Republicans went along with it. The Iran deal as a prime example.
You are a fool if you don't think it can't happen here.
And yet Scott Adams still won't say that he is not for Hillary.
The election is not over, not by a long shot. She can be given the brain of Abby and reanimated.
It is totally not over. I agree 1000%.
I await April's explanation as to why Trump did this help Hillary get elected.
You know if they replace Hillary with Biden all of the NeverTrumpers will fall all over themselves to get him elected.
See the Torricelli/Frank Lautenberg switcheroo if you want to see how it is done.
The Lautenmouth business was one where the electorate was already to go Demo anyway IIRC.
I think this is a little different. It would be their opening to put in a better candidate (Joe is as crippled as Frumpty, after all) and they'd jump at it.
The vid of her waving to the press after she left Chelsea's infirmary would tend to reinforce the belief the Ozark Mafia is prepared to kill her to keep her on the ticket IYKWIMAITYD.
You guys are right on target. As much as anyone will allow her to get away with lying and bending the truth on every one of her political deeds and misdeeds - there's just no way to lie around this.
But she will do it anyway and her poll numbers will finally drop.
I continue to wonder what's in it for those who are keeping their mouth shut on her behalf. The situation is now so deep, personal integrity is on the line and starting to become a factor, even with debate moderators who are pro-Clinton as they now have to decided how much of a blind fool they are willing to show themselves to be.
When Trooper trots out his theories as to what might be transpiring, I listen with one ear, because I also have another ear with which to listen to other opinions and a brain that can sort. I'm assuming most who read here posses the same faculties.
What's clear is movement. Something is transpiring and being worked out behind the scenes as Clinton appears more and more compromised and locked up in her situation and story.
Sorry Hillary. You're no FDR and this is not 1932.
Remember? That's why you knee-capped your primary opponent in the first place.
Biden will win? What has Biden ever won? Delaware is basically just a minor colony for on-shoring corporate tax havens in the U.S. And just about the same size.
MamaM said...
I continue to wonder what's in it for those who are keeping their mouth shut on her behalf. The situation is now so deep, personal integrity is on the line and starting to become a factor
Mama, you're talking personal integrity about the Ozark Mafia?
I used to think that perhaps someone who is covering and covering up for Mrs. Clinton would have a conscience or perhaps even enough decency to speak up about what is going on, but look at what happens to those who do - the lucky ones like Dr. Drew just lose their job. Others, well, they pay a much higher price.
One of the rebuttals to most conspiracy theories is that the number of people involved becomes too great and someone springs a leak. That used to be the case, back when Americans were fair minded and essentially decent.
Now they side with tyrants and are looking for a payoff. And since Mrs. Clinton is a billionaire, the payoffs are going to be large.
The duopoly will try to rig it. They have many fellow travelers. The George Will's and Jonah Goldberg's and wheelchair guys will sign on to Biden because Trump is Hitler.
You can see this coming a mile away.
Wait. She lost her shoe under the speeding van that took her away?
Did it look like this?
The thing is I don't ask anyone to believe anything. I just state what I think and leave you to follow up with other news sources and make up your own mind.
I just don't put anything past Hillary and the press and the cuckservative Republicans.
The mystery big black man. Imagine it was W, or Trump, or ANY Republican w/ a guy no one knows but is obviously not Secret Service tending to the candidate. The MSM would have all sorts of info. I'm disappointed the alternative media has not. I'll bet the National Enquirer is working on it.
Here's what I saw in the video. I'm not a bean counter, bra salesman, or propagandist but someone who has shot, analyzed and edited video since video cameras were invented. The Secret Service are reflexive, they saw a definite problem and reacted quickly. But, the result was not defending their subject from an outside threat but blocking any video. I'm troubled by that. I'm not troubled by wacky conspiracy theories, but I am about real stuff.
Unfortunately, I think Trooper is right to speculate - even leaving no stone unturned. NYC politics alone is brutal. I was there last night talking to someone who was going over just landlord-tenant politics. With some related business politics and sexual politics thrown in. It was ugly and more conniving than you can believe. The New York market basically controls the media - not least of all as an arm of the DNC so you have be really creative to figure these things out. It's why there are so few Democratic leaders from New York and their pathetic party is left wondering if such a transparently soulless weasel like Cory Booker is the next big up-and-coming thing. I mean up-and-coming nothing.
Well, this is more sane. I like sane analysis. Maybe they will try and insert Biden. I would not put that past the DNC. But this Obama will stay in office is just nutty. I'm glad we appear to have moved past that.
The Secret Service, the Main Stream Media and the Conservative intelligentsia all conspire to cover up Hillary's obvious health issues and that is a wacky conspiracy theory. I hear Bill O'Reilly say that her Doc Holliday coughing jag was not big deal. I saw the Washington Post say that the media had to stop covering wacky Trumper Conspiracy theories.
The Democratic party illegally substituted Frank Lautenberg for a corrupt Robert Torricelli after being given the go ahead by a ultra liberal judge. A wacky conspiracy theory.
The media covered up the horrible health problems of Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Jack Kennedy. A wacky conspiracy theory.
It's all so wacky and impossible. It can't happen here.
What is wacky is thinking that Barack Hussien Obama will abide by the Constitution and the rule of law. That is not just wacky. That is stupid.
Ritmo, He has every right to speculate and I have every right to call it what it is..wacky. Putting aside the myriad of reasons Obama remaining in office is wacky, I will offer one that is most logical. In my lifetime I have never seen a candidate more ready to get the fuck out of the WH. This guy has been phoning it in the last couple years. He has put off doing anything of substance knowing he was leaving a fucking mess for whomever succeeds him.
Stop building straw men. I rant against the duopoly all the time. I rant against the MSM all the time. I can see the coverup on her health. I have ranted against that many times here and elsewhere. It's just wacky and fucking STUPID to think Obama even wants to continue being prez. I don't do wacky or stupid. Now, lets end this. The Giants are on and I know that's something you enjoy. Take a few hours, put the rage on the back burner, and enjoy the G-men.
Well, Nick - Obama sure doesn't prefer to get his hands too dirty with much these days and can easily be criticized for it but then I guess I'll leave it up to the Republicans to let us know how much of a chance they were willing to give him from the get-go. I sure remember how enthusiastic Mitch McConnell was to work with the guy!
Conspiracy? I didn't realize Americans hate underdogs as much as the Republicans wanted to convince us to hate Obama, and all the naked contempt they had for him starting January 20, 2009.
Both Lem and Sixty made a good point on other threads. This "episode" may create sympathy for Hillary. She is only close to being likeable when she's a victim. Her best polling was when Bill would be fucking women. However, one would think any sympathy would be mitigated by her covering up her health issues. Then again, she covered for Bubba's bird dogging and that did not diminish her being a victim. This is a very fluid situation. I like folks like Lem, Sixty, Ritmo and others offering up their perspective. Gee, I wonder if the DNC will try and insert Bernie in her place. LOL!
That creepy Assange said he would be releasing some shit on her this week or next. Maybe w/ these body blows today a knockout punch? Or is that wishful thinking.
I've hopefully suspected that Assange really does have some potent stuff behind the promises but I don't know what he's holding out on. I think he's making it clear that she put him on his enemies' list does not forego anything. But in the meantime he's doing a good job playing the media on this - as he has every right to. The DNC might have thrown away the presidency for the worst and most corrupt reasons possible, and the accusations for Hillary's abuses need and deserve to be given the fair hearing that the media simply refuse to give them. Until then, Assange is simply the best media substitute we can hope for.
ND - I was wondering if the pending/looming Wikileaks dump is bad, and she knows it.
What is your opinion of her bobble before going down. Real or staged?
Oh and Glenn Greenwald, too. I agree with Trooper there. I find him to be a particularly nasty cretin, especially with his smears and lies and whitewashing of enemy ideologies. But he is definitely calling the media out on the free pass they gave and are still giving Clinton and how dangerous to the country she really is and how dangerously low their journalistic standards are.
Sixty - She can't sleep because her whole life is one big crooked lie. All those uppers and downers + pills for her other issues.. that makes sense. Pills can kill.
Come on pills. we are counting on you.
We're getting close to ballots being cast. That makes it hard to replace her on the ticket. Here's a sane scenario I could see. She stays on the ticket as long as she has a pulse. If elected, Kaine takes over under the 25th Amendment and makes Bubba VP. Kaine will be a puppet. You see, unlike Obama, Bubba is someone who CRAVES being in the WH and running things. If he can stay awake.
She was out cold - unconscious. She had no idea where she was and she could barely keep her head from flopping every which way. Hence the bum's rush into the van. Buh bye, bum.
Bubba is not eligible to be VP due to having reached his term limit as prez. Not to mention his intern limit.
She was out cold - unconscious.
She was "brought to heel."
I hate that you guys are bringing this out in me. I want to give enough space to figure out what the fuck the REAL medical truth is, and then give her the last chance she'll ever get to either come clean or gracefully exit the stage or dig in.
And after that point I'll figure out just how much more brutal I'll get. I'm holding back a lot. There was already enough good damaging joke potential there before. But some actual truths need to finally be let out before we can get any that stick.
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You kill me April. Thanks. You and Hillary have really cheered me up today. Thanks.
Glad your happy, Troop. Really.
I won't be happy til' she's dead.
Sixty, The 22nd speaks only about Presidency. But, the "logical" stance would be if someone is no longer eligible to be President, then he should not be VP, a step away from the Presidency. But, if I am going to play advocatus diablo I would say that the 22nd would then preclude me from being Speaker of the House or President Pro Tempore of the Senate..go down the line, and I don't think that was the intent. I mean I think you're right, but I think a case could be made. Really, Bubba would probably be satisfied w/ being a shadow President. You know that girly Kaine could be bitch slapped to do whatever Bubba wanted. That's why Hillary chose him. In the words of Lee Harvey, Kaine would be happy to say, "I'm a patsy."
It's just wacky and fucking STUPID to think Obama even wants to continue being prez. I don't do wacky or stupid. Now, lets end this.
Yes to ending whatever keeps prompting the personal attacks. They're wacky and stupid.
What's even wackier and stupider, is believing a man who's been phoning it in, a persistent narcissist who was groomed, assisted and set up by stronger and more powerful people than he himself can ever hope to be, will stop being a tool and a patsy and simply walk away from whatever he's been doing and whomever he's been answering to because he's tired of being president.
There's another game being played and it's yet to play out.
Wow. Scolding Mama appears, whom I am familiar w/ from many scoldings. But, Manchurian Mama is a revelation to me. I tell you what, I'll give you 2500-1 odds Obama will not be President after Inauguration Day.
Were we discussing probability, nd? It looked to me like you were dishing out another scoop of contempt while castigating; and then decided to follow up by pushing the "scolding" rap on me.
Not scold? Lecture, then? WTF do you want to call what YOU do? I'll probably agree w/ what you want to call it. Give it a name. I don't want to get bogged down on semantics. That's Althousian and it doesn't interest me. Actually, I have an aversion to it.
Regarding your wacky Manchurian Candidate theory. Probability is @ the core of a theory. What do you think the odds are? I'm deferring to you Saint Mama. Finally, if you diagram sentences, I have been calling the conspiracy theories wacky and stupid. That's not a "personal attack." I allowed my kids to say, "That is a horseshit decision" but they couldn't call me horseshit. If a theory is wacky or stupid, that's what I will call it. That's how I have always been. It ain't gonna change.
You've read me long enough to know the answer, ndSpinelli.
What you receive from me is truth and grace, Nick. Together. The name calling and contempt showing up on your side is, in my opinion, beneath you.
And for the sake of clarification, the "we" statement copied below from your 2:54 sounded to me like "personal attack".
LOL! We have our wacky right wing Oliver Stone here. Always spinning Carville like. We aren't some insular Brooklyn home boy bumpkins. Why the fuck go wacky. There's plenty substantive material here. Wait, new Reality Show audition?
The biggest conspiracy theorists in the country have nothing to do with moon landings, aliens or batboys having babies. They are your everyday average DAs, states attorneys, Attorney Generals, FBI directors, all on down to your average beat cop.
They are charging people with conspiracies to commit crimes of various types everyday. Sometimes on very flimsy, circumstantial evidence. Sometimes just to push for a plea deal. Nowadays you have cops accusing people with "large denominations of cash" as drug dealers with no proof. Just sieze the cash/property and charge it with a crime. No conspiracy theories there, I mean its just civil asset forfeiture. All legal! And it funds the police departments.
To paraphrase an old line, the term conspiracy theorist is a red herring. Especially when we know the media outright lies to us let alone the government. Oh, and they're full of commies. Turns out Tailgunner Joe wasn't so wrong.
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