Sunday, October 6, 2013

Answer to questions nobody asks

Or rather, that Julie Pace Associated Press White House Correspondent asks. You know, the important matters of State one asks the executive at the very top of the political world.

If Barak Obama owned the Washington Redskins he'd be open to changing the name because no matter how much it means to fans and no matter how we feel about tradition we must consider the very real concerns of a sizable group of people.

Bless.

But ya don't, Blanche, ya don't own the Washington Redskins.

But just to play along with your community agitation everything-is-racist reindeer games, are you up for suggestions?


How about, Washington Whities, would that make you happy? For now? 

68 comments:

rhhardin said...

It's part of the DC firestick ban.

edutcher said...

How 'bout the BabyKillers?

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

He missed the opportunity to say the matter is above his pay grade.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Drudge has a bold headline this morning "Hill Takes Breather".

For some reason, I thought it was about Hillary and I hadn't bother to look until this morning.

It's about the capitol hill shutdown.

Icepick said...

Call the team the Pale Faces.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

They could boost stadium attendance by giving away rally blankets.

AllenS said...

The Washington Shut Downs.

AllenS said...

The Washington Community Organizers.

ComOrgans for short.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

City Tavern in Philadelphia (est. 1773) is shut down because of this pointless clusterfuck we call a federal government.

Absolutely pathetic.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I wonder if they have business interruption insurance.

Maybe this counts as an "Act of God."

Fuck the Japanese tourists, in any event. That's what they get for travelling halfway around the world to experience a bit of American history.

Maybe some enterprising fellow has a cardboard cutout of Barack Obama set up in front of the place and tourists can take their photographs from outside the place posing next to the Dumbfuck in Chief.

That would be something of a compensation, I guess.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...
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Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

President Trayvon Beer Summit Red Skins.

All your national parks are belong to him.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Allen S for the win. Does a little end-zone dance.

ndspinelli said...

Rank and file Indians don't care about this horseshit. I had an Indian activist give a talk to my class about 15 years ago. When asked about how the majority of Indians felt about this he was honest enough to admit they don't care.

chickelit said...

Icepick said...
Call the team the Pale Faces.

Yes! To honor Teddy Kennedy! Wait, he was kinda redskinned too. Hmm.

deborah said...

lol Lem.

deborah said...

Washingon White Sox.

AllenS said...

Question --

What would the Washington ComOrgan mascot look like?

A pancreas?

Liver?

Gall bladder?

Lung?

[Spikes football]

Icepick said...

El Pollo, to honor Ted they'd be called the Washington Bulbous Noses.

Icepick said...

I'm waiting for Obama to come out against the name Patriots for the NE franchise. After all, Barry O knows lots of people that are offended by patriotism.

I'm Full of Soup said...

How about the Washington Grand Poobahs?

or Imperialists?

or Alinskyites [will only be used while a Dem is in the White House]?

Shouting Thomas said...

My alma mater, the University of Illinois, caved into this bullshit and banished Chief Illiniwek. What a disaster!

Don't give into the name change motherfuckers.

TOP is a name change motherfucker. The "gay marriage" fiasco was the classic name change asshole tactic.

The problem TOP was trying to solve was the tendency of gay men to commit suicide via sexual excess, and their need for hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical care brought on by said tendency to commit suicide by sexual excess.

TOP's solution... blame the problem on straight men committing "oppression" and hope the name change to "gay marriage" will convince gay men to cease committing suicide by sexual excess.

The name changers are always lying motherfuckers disguising their true agenda by their "good intentions."

Shouting Thomas said...

My vote for a new name, should the name change motherfuckers win, would be the Washington Grifters.

In honor of our shut down Federal government.

ndspinelli said...

If it's the Bulbous Noses I would have all the cheerleaders wearing Mary Jo Kopechne masks.

edutcher said...

Since the shutdown has taught us all 5/6 of federal employees are non-essential, call 'em the Vestigials.

Shouting Thomas said...

I got up this morning and completed my normal 10 mile bicycle ride without Federal assistance.

So far, I haven't noticed all ill effects from the shutdown.

Chip S. said...

These are all way too complicated.

The team's name can be changed in a manner totally consistent with its fans preferences (esp. El Jefe's) with a trivial spacing change and addition of an apostrophe:

Hail to the Reds' Kin!

bagoh20 said...

I'm curious what our friends here on the left think of the Swiss idea of a guaranteed unconditional income for everyone, which they are going to vote on by referendum soon.


http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/06/swiss-look-to-go-all-in-on-socialism-assure-income-to-everyone-even-without-working/

bagoh20 said...

The only effect I've seen of the shutdown is that I went to an obscure government website yesterday to read up on a plant and it said it was unavailable because of the shutdown, and reminded me that any website that uses government sources may be incorrect or out of date because of the shutdown.

Maybe that's what's wrong with whitehouse.gov, because it has a bunch of incorrect stuff on it.

Shouting Thomas said...

Switzerland is a very small country with a population that is just about 100% Swiss. Immigration is severely restricted.

This make the Swiss experience, and Swiss political arrangements unique to Switzerland.

You can't assume that things that will work in Switzerland will work anywhere else.

bagoh20 said...

I'm not sure it can work anywhere. It's basically a commune, and those have a very bad track record poisoned by the same human issues. You can't simply vote to eliminate sloth, and greed and expect it to happen.

virgil xenophon said...

Funny, the Albion College (Albion Mich) "Britons" don't seem to mind being named after the pasty-white British (or their predecessors, that is) Or need we go into other Waspish-type mascots like the WV "Mountianeers or the Neb "Cornhuskers?" How about the Vandalia Ill "Vandals"--same for the Univ of Idaho "Vandals." Talk about disreputable names! (He "vandalized" the car) Or should we demand that they rename the town of Vandalia? Or how about renaming entire States? "Illinois" is simply French for the "Illini" Indian tribe, while Utah is named for the Ute Indian tribe. How disrespectful! While "Oklahoma" is an indian word meaning "red" okla people indigenous to the area. Zounds! What an insult! Or take "Indiana" or "Indianapolis" How un-PC can one get? And surely Chief Seattle is rolling over in his grave at the thought of the State of Washington's largest city being named after him!

Need I go on sportsfans?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Switzerland is one of, if not the most, expensive countries in all of Europe.

I'm not down on the Swiss - they do some things right. They train their male citizens age 20-30 to self-defend the country w/ guns. I like that.

When I lived in Denver, I had neighbors who were from Switzerland. A really nice older couple - they sold me my car insurance. Anyway, they disliked the super high taxes, high cost of living, and government control in Switzerland, which is why they moved to America. Some people do not function well with the government monkey on their backs.

I've traveled to Switzerland. I loved it- it's one of the most beautiful places on earth. That said, they have their internal problems. Back then it was needle sharing, aids and punk graffiti ruining their beautiful cities.

Socialism isn't free and because of that, everything in Switzerland is super duper expensive. (the left never seem to understand that correlation)
I guess when your own citizens cannot afford it all, you guarantee them some income. Problem is, someone somewhere has to pay for it all and produce it all. Good luck with that. You also run out of producers as they flee.

virgil xenophon said...

PS: While warming to the subject I'd like to answer those PC types who point out (in response to claims that such mascots are only selected to lionize their subjects for their admirable traits as fierce warriors, etc.) that blacks in America have never been so honored (because RACISM!) that this is so because whites in America never fought a war against black people and thus did not experience their bravery or prowess in battle--unlike the British who have had no compunction in honoring their former black-skinned foes.

There have been three naval Destroyers named "ZULU" in the hist of the Royal Navy, plus one active-duty RAF fighter squadron (The "Zulus") who's coat-of-arms includes a Zulu Shield and crossed Zulu spears, while there is a "Zulu" company in the Royal Marines (iirc) whose war-cry is the same sounds the Zulus used to make--all of which showing the utmost respect for their former opponents, much in the same way we do for the Red-Man that our fore-fathers fought.

virgil xenophon said...

PPS: Obama is not only a first-rate charlatan, he's a TOTAL buffoon as well..

Chip Ahoy said...

Driving around Colorado is amazing. It is very easy to imagine teepees all over the place. I'll turn a corner and the scenery suggests a western film. It is like being is a western film.

Joe showed me a lot of photos,

"Look at that one."

"Fuckin' wires."

"I know.'

Two black lines streaking across the whole thing. Picture after picture after picture.

A drive through the state is like a drive through a series of paintings. Taking corners, several paintings in a series then it changes, lovely with a gentle cast of snow, the next hill gets the sun, and so on painting by painting, as artist your palette changes. That ended the confusion I held over their state motto, I hadn't considered it particularly colorful until then. Rather boring, actually, for its sparse vegetation compared to other places. When I first came across actual real live cactus while traipsing along the rail road track I pissed myself with glee and took it and started a cactus garden.

(I have to look up palette each time to see which of the three to use.)




Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Put travel to the Lauterbrunnen Valley on your bucket list. Rick Steves does a show on it. It's pretty good.

The Swiss government subsidizes the high mountain farmers so they can keep that old way of life. Again - fine and dandy but no one can afford to visit Switzerland anymore - unless you're Oprah. And even she's not rich enough for the staff.

MamaM said...

The Washington Thugs

The DC Bill Collectors (could be known as the Washington Bills)

The Washington Sell Outs

Washington Party Animals

The Fullablusters

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Driving around Colorado is amazing.

The silver lining to all the flooding is that it's unusually green this Sept/Oct. The grass is green the hills are green and the leaves are turning gold. The sky is blue and we have these things called the Rocky Mountains. Glorious.

William said...

I'm not so much against a name change as against the smug piety of those who phrase this as some kind of defining moral issue. There's no reason to believe that the traditionalists wish to discriminate against Indians, but there's every reason to believe that the namers wish to demonize the traditionalists. Anyway you slice it, it's still baloney. The Red Ledgers is a name that the Democrats could get behind.

sakredkow said...

There's no reason to believe that the traditionalists wish to discriminate against Indians

Of course not. Still it's totally understandable for anyone to wonder "What if it were the Brownskins or the Yellowskins? Wouldn't they change that?" But they won't change the Redskins name. Why is that?

The best people are going to do their best not to be offended by others and not to offend others. The name Redskins doesn't offend me, but I wonder why people don't care that it does offend other people.

William said...

How about changing the name to the Rubicunds. Since no one knows what color Rubicund is, no one need be offended...,,The name I find truly offensive is the Pirates. Somali immigrants have a difficult enough time integrating into our society without that unfortunate part of their heritage being thrown in their face. I recoomend Pittsburgh change the team's name to the Mauves.

I'm Full of Soup said...

I like your uggestion of Washington Grifters ST.

And Bulbous Noses is good too Spinelli.

Bago- I think we should also consider a universal income too. Paid to every citizen over 18 an paid to everyone no exceptions and it would be taxable and it would eliminate all and I mean all the current social programs except Medicare.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Titus - you are far from funny - and you need a new act.

Aridog said...

edutcher said...

Since the shutdown has taught us all 5/6 of federal employees are non-essential, call 'em the Vestigials.

Hardly. Where did that 5/6ths come from? As we speak, the furloughed amount to about 20% on average, down from the *estimated* 40% on 01 Oct. The Pentagon just re-employed their civilian employees...in fact they never furloughed most of them to begin with...e.g., the number crunchers are quite confused. My old office never missed a day and they are part of a global operation. Department of the Interior alleges they laid off 81%, but seem to have no end of employees to put up barriers. Why is that?

Aridog said...

Edutcher .... make no mistake, I'm fully aware of how many employees of the federal government are non-essential and can be done without even with full funding. Make that about 2/3's of the flag ranks, uniformed and civilian (SES) for starters. None of those ranks are civil servants, even if they call themselves such...they are NOT.

However, in this shutdown, those are NOT the people furloughed.

Leland said...

we must consider the very real concerns of a sizable group of people.

Like the people who voted for the GOP representatives in the House? Oh no.

Well in that case, the Redskins called to say "you didn't win us, get over it!"

bagoh20 said...

" I wonder why people don't care that it does offend other people."

Because that's a foolish standard. There is always someone who is offended by everything. What if more people are offended by changing it than keeping it, which is quite likely in this case.

A lot of people, especially on the left are offended by my existence, a white corporate CEO who wants as small a government as possible, and the lowest taxes possible, and for people to be forced to take care of themselves when they are able-bodied. As AprilApple often points out, they hate people like me and we offend them. Should I light myself on fire, or start ramming the Barrycades until they shoot me?

You don't have a right to not be offended. That is the very core of the First Amendment.

The President offends me. Can we ask him to quit, just to make me happy? And I bet I have more support for that than the change-the-name crowd does.

sakredkow said...

@AJ Lynch They are keeping you busy today :D

sakredkow said...

As AprilApple often points out, they hate people like me and we offend them.

Here's a tissue.

chickelit said...

Here's a tissue.

That offends Sheryl Crow, or it used to.

Icepick said...

If it's the Bulbous Noses I would have all the cheerleaders wearing Mary Jo Kopechne masks

That's awesome!

I'm Full of Soup said...

Sheryl Crow -good one CL.

bagoh20 said...

"Here's a tissue."

Exactly! Now you just need to learn to treat all people equal, and we will be on the same page.

I'm Full of Soup said...

"Treat all people equal...."

Bago - this is a reason we should consider a universal subsidy to all and get rid of college grants, food stamps, welfare,unemployment, social security, .....

We have reached a point where the leaners [aka the librul squeaky wheels and special interest groups] are making the rest of us [the lifters]resentful.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Of course, I don't know what we would then do with about 2 million unemployed social workers.

sakredkow said...

Now you just need to learn to treat all people equal, and we will be on the same page.

You treat all people equal. I'm a free agent and I call 'em like I see 'em.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Phx- but we [aka the govt] does not treat all people equally. As a result, we have affirmative action, women's programs, LGBT programs, SBA programs, minority set-asides in govt procurement, whole human resource depts dedicated to tilting the scale to attempt to have equal outcomes for every allegedly underprivileged subset of the population.

sakredkow said...

AJ Lynch - That stuff's not my responsibility. I was talking about my belief that people should be a little more flexible with one another about sports team names, and a lot of things in general.

A little less offense given, a little less offense taken.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

The democrat party should be thanking you, and people like you -Bagoh - for all you do.
Private sector business owners and industrialists like you keep the economy humming along and provide a tax base and employment for Americans. Not to mention the creation of products made in America!
Instead - All we hear from the top level democrats on down is how much they hate the tea party. Yep - ordinary American citizens - the democrats hate you. It doesn't matter if you or I or anyone are a member of the "tea party",.. That is beside the point. We know what the democrats mean when they disparage the tea party. It means they disparage ordinary Americans. If ya don't worship the democrats and their big government agenda - *spit* tea party anarchist!
Really?
The democrats should be sending Bagoh chocolates, flowers, muffins and a fruit basket, each and every month - with a big card that says -THANK YOU.

Unknown said...

I was thinking about this issue, somewhat seriously, today. When I taught preschool, we were counseled not to encourage play with "Indian" dressups and props,or to sing songs making Indian "whoop" calls, since a lot of that stuff had/has religious and cultural significance. What would I think, they asked, if little kids were encouraged to play with crucifixes and hosts in a public school classroom, singing cute little dehumanizing songs about Catholics and their quaint practices as they did?

I have to admit, this spoke to me. I wouldn't like that at all.

On the other hand, I see nothing wrong with the fact that there's a team called the Padres, nor am I offended by a "Hail Mary Pass."

For that matter, I've never been bothered by the fact that public schools regularly promote ridiculously caricatured versions of St. Patrick's Day, Valentine's Day, Easter, Halloween and Christmas.

So I stopped thinking seriously about it, because I realized I really didn't care.

sakredkow said...

On the other hand, I see nothing wrong with the fact that there's a team called the Padres, nor am I offended by a "Hail Mary Pass."

I pretty much agree with you. Of course, if we had a lot of logos with the Virgin Mother running for a football, maybe it would be different.

Michael Haz said...

If you want to anger sports fans, threaten to rename the Redskins "Cubs".

I'm Full of Soup said...

We had a nun in fifth grade, Sister John Catherine, who was a great boxball pitcher.

bagoh20 said...

"The democrats should be sending Bagoh chocolates, flowers,..."

To be fair they do send me a card every April 15th. Sweethearts.


April, I appreciate all that you wrote. Thanks. I don't think enough people realize that private business pays for everything. The excess prodcutive output of people working voluntarily and cooperatively in businesses pays for everything else. Everything the government does for you as well as everything you buy yourself starts out as private business productivity. It's the engine of it all. Consequently, whether you believe in big government or small, you should still recognize that supporting business is not only necessary, but primary. And what most of us want in the way of support is to be left alone, to be allowed to run without our shoes tied together. We know how to do our jobs, and if we don't some other business will replace us. Of course, we need roads, courts, police, and stability, etc., but that's rarely the focus of our government today. Handling those responsibilities has taken a back seat to taking care of the special interests, friends and supporters who just happen to be somehow related to those services. The efficiency or quality of the service is just a vehicle - virtually an excuse - to distribute money and power. Maybe it was always so, but citizens should always be fighting to cull the fox population, and protect the health of the golden geese. I don't see any interest in doing that at all on one entire side of the political spectrum, and much of the other side only talks about it.

Trooper York said...

Our founding fathers started this country based on tax evasion, rum smuggling, slavery and taking things from the Indians.

To do anything less is a perversion of our heritage.

Icepick said...

Our founding fathers started this country based on tax evasion, rum smuggling, slavery and taking things from the Indians.

You forgot tobacco!

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Of course, we need roads, courts, police, and stability, etc., but that's rarely the focus of our government today. Handling those responsibilities has taken a back seat to taking care of the special interests, friends and supporters who just happen to be somehow related to those services...

yes. & As stated before - the over-promised underfunded government pensions.