Justin H: From what I read, this was self-defense, NOT murder.
"Bully-killing" teen told family, "I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die, I can feel it," but was denied emergency transfer http://t.co/4ng1WD8Anb
— New York Post (@nypost) June 20, 2014
I think eight steak knives are more knives then anyone should be allowed to have. Who needs so many knives? Does it make you feel more manly to have so many knives? How do we know that a troubled youte won't break in and take those knives to school like this child did?
Also a steak knife is a special type of knife that only a trained professional like a chef or a fat guy like me should have in their possession. If you need to cut your meat you should call 911 and a cutting enforcement professional will deal with it.
When a you need you meat to be cut in seconds they are only minutes away.
I think eight steak knives are more knives then anyone should be allowed to have. Who needs so many knives? Does it make you feel more manly to have so many knives? How do we know that a troubled youte won't break in and take those knives to school like this child did?
Had something similar, happen in my small town. Smaller kid getting bullied by bigger larger HS school. Smaller kid, had enough, warned bigger kid to lay off. Next time, he was bullied, he stabbed larger kid in the thigh with a pen knife. Happened after school. Parents handled the whole thing themselves.
If it was a six-inch kitchen knife, I'm wondering whether he stuck it in his pants like they do in the movies or whether he was walking around town carrying one of those wooden counter top knife blocks.
We have Wusthof steak knives and they are infuriating. They have to sharpened before EVERY FUCKING USE or I might just as well poke at my food with a stick of butter.
Thing is, our kitchen knives are Wusthof, too, and they rock. Keep an edge, like, forever.
I'm guessing that knives meant for the table need to look nicer -- in some corporate somebody's view -- so they add more Chromium or Selenium or Einsteinium or whatever it is that makes them look nice and suck giant hairy walnuts.
I could probably stab a teenager with one of those steak knives until I'm blue in the face and get nothing more for my trouble than a sore wrist -- certainy not a dead teenager, anyway.
Gee, maybe our bullied stabby, stabby friend could do a product endorsement for whatever brand he used.
Eric ....are you sure your Wustoff steak knives are from the same catalog type as the kitchen knives? If they came in the same wood block as the kitchen knives, then I don't understand it. If the steak knives were a separate purchase of the bargain catalog type Wustoff occasionally promotes for under $100 prices...then you got the K-Mart version, not the Macy's version.
Aridog... "do I have to tell anyone how many pistols & revolvers I have? Or will "enough" do? :-))"
I wouldn't give an inventory of the pistols and revolvers currently in your possession since internet info could be used to construct a registry list, but you could tell us all about the ones that were lost in that tragic boating accident. ;-)
So... if an *adult* beat you regularly, chased you down the street, peed on your door, verbally assaulted and harassed you on a regular basis... could the police really do nothing?
Or is it just because these were kids that we refuse to apply the law?
Oh... and the school should just offer a settlement to the kid who was bullied right now and get it over with. Being told of the problem and then refusing a transfer is damning.
Yes, sure, his parents should have just kept him home, but if they've got legal issues too (his mom is in jail?) they probably can't afford to allow any truancy.
Oh and... Yes... Timothy *deserved* to die. Most people don't get what they deserve, they get additional chances, and that's a blessing... but everyone, even a 14 year old who the police and school refuse to protect has the right to self-defense.
The culpability of Timothy's *enablers* is a separate story.
I looked. They're all from the Classic series and they all have "X 50 Cr Mo V 15" on the blade so it's entirely possible that the most reasonable, entirely logical, explanation is that I'm simply nuts.
Eric ...if they are all of the "Classic" series (forged steel), and the steak knives aren't from the "Gourmet" series (cut sheet steel), then I don't understand it either. Maybe that the steak knives are used regularly against ceramic hard surfaces? Donno.
No, if the damn things, expensive as they are, aren't sharp for more than a single use, then you aren't nuts. Bad batch maybe?
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I refuse to notice what I'm not supposed to notice which is what I knew I would see when I read the article.
La la la...
...not happening, not happening...
...la la la
Whew!
Now I'm better.
Got my mind right, boss.
Despite what you hear from politicians and read in the press, not all things are easily fixed.
He brought a kitchen knife to school.
Metal detectors must have been on the frits.
My guess is that this wasn't at a charter school.
This story is a surprise .....why?
Kids have been getting stabbed in the schoolyard ever since Bernardo and Biff duked it out in the 1950's.
What difference does it now make?
I do think we should institute a vigorous system of knife control.
For the record:
I have 8 steak knives.
Midnight basketball.
That'll fix it.
I think eight steak knives are more knives then anyone should be allowed to have. Who needs so many knives? Does it make you feel more manly to have so many knives? How do we know that a troubled youte won't break in and take those knives to school like this child did?
He has to go to school to be brutalized and he snapped. I blame DeBlasio. He is responsible.
Steak knives? See how it feels to you! Monsters!
Bernardo's sister was the wood that does not float.
Also a steak knife is a special type of knife that only a trained professional like a chef or a fat guy like me should have in their possession. If you need to cut your meat you should call 911 and a cutting enforcement professional will deal with it.
When a you need you meat to be cut in seconds they are only minutes away.
I think eight steak knives are more knives then anyone should be allowed to have. Who needs so many knives? Does it make you feel more manly to have so many knives? How do we know that a troubled youte won't break in and take those knives to school like this child did?
Had something similar, happen in my small town. Smaller kid getting bullied by bigger larger HS school. Smaller kid, had enough, warned bigger kid to lay off. Next time, he was bullied, he stabbed larger kid in the thigh with a pen knife. Happened after school. Parents handled the whole thing themselves.
That was the 70s, today there'd be lawsuits.
Similar of course, in that in involved a knife and bullies.
When you're fighting for your life, there's no such thing as fighting fair.
Yep, don't bring your fists to a knife fight.
Unless you're Chuck Norris.
If it was a six-inch kitchen knife, I'm wondering whether he stuck it in his pants like they do in the movies or whether he was walking around town carrying one of those wooden counter top knife blocks.
Sounds like Crump got what he deserved.
If I was on that jury, no way I would convict the kid who stabbed him.
He did society a favor.
Is it true that the kids name was Zimmerman?
Would that it is.
Becasue Allen S told us how many steak knives he has, do I have to tell anyone how many pistols & revolvers I have? Or will "enough" do? :-))
Enough? Impossible.
My business cards say:
Have Steak Knives
-----Will Travel
Oooooooohhhhh!
Just like Paladin.
You do sort of give off the Richard Boone vibe.
Perfect!
We have Wusthof steak knives and they are infuriating. They have to sharpened before EVERY FUCKING USE or I might just as well poke at my food with a stick of butter.
Thing is, our kitchen knives are Wusthof, too, and they rock. Keep an edge, like, forever.
I'm guessing that knives meant for the table need to look nicer -- in some corporate somebody's view -- so they add more Chromium or Selenium or Einsteinium or whatever it is that makes them look nice and suck giant hairy walnuts.
I could probably stab a teenager with one of those steak knives until I'm blue in the face and get nothing more for my trouble than a sore wrist -- certainy not a dead teenager, anyway.
Gee, maybe our bullied stabby, stabby friend could do a product endorsement for whatever brand he used.
Hey, I'd take his word for it!
This didn't happen either.
I sense a bit of frustration, Eric.
Germans specialize in ovens not cutlery. Just sayn'
Those are hard to carry around, though.
And much harder to swing at someone.
Eric ....are you sure your Wustoff steak knives are from the same catalog type as the kitchen knives? If they came in the same wood block as the kitchen knives, then I don't understand it. If the steak knives were a separate purchase of the bargain catalog type Wustoff occasionally promotes for under $100 prices...then you got the K-Mart version, not the Macy's version.
Now I will not be able to get my image of AllenS as a chunky black clad crouching tiger Ninja knife throwing dude out of my mind for a while.
Time for some Cognac!
Aridog... "do I have to tell anyone how many pistols & revolvers I have? Or will "enough" do? :-))"
I wouldn't give an inventory of the pistols and revolvers currently in your possession since internet info could be used to construct a registry list, but you could tell us all about the ones that were lost in that tragic boating accident. ;-)
So... if an *adult* beat you regularly, chased you down the street, peed on your door, verbally assaulted and harassed you on a regular basis... could the police really do nothing?
Or is it just because these were kids that we refuse to apply the law?
Oh... and the school should just offer a settlement to the kid who was bullied right now and get it over with. Being told of the problem and then refusing a transfer is damning.
Yes, sure, his parents should have just kept him home, but if they've got legal issues too (his mom is in jail?) they probably can't afford to allow any truancy.
Oh and... Yes... Timothy *deserved* to die. Most people don't get what they deserve, they get additional chances, and that's a blessing... but everyone, even a 14 year old who the police and school refuse to protect has the right to self-defense.
The culpability of Timothy's *enablers* is a separate story.
I looked. They're all from the Classic series and they all have "X 50 Cr Mo V 15" on the blade so it's entirely possible that the most reasonable, entirely logical, explanation is that I'm simply nuts.
Eric ...if they are all of the "Classic" series (forged steel), and the steak knives aren't from the "Gourmet" series (cut sheet steel), then I don't understand it either. Maybe that the steak knives are used regularly against ceramic hard surfaces? Donno.
No, if the damn things, expensive as they are, aren't sharp for more than a single use, then you aren't nuts. Bad batch maybe?
If you can't cut your steak with a butter knife you're doing it wrong. ;)
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