“People who don’t understand the medical value of cannabis are tearing my family apart,” says the Kansas father and US veteran, who has a prescription for marijuana in neighboring Colorado, where it is legal.
Nine months ago, Schwab tried to move to Colorado to grow medical marijuana for fellow veterans. While he and his wife were there preparing for the move, the state of Kansas took five of their children, ages 5 to 16, into custody on suspicion of child endangerment, ensnaring his family in interstate marijuana politics.
Cases like the Schwabs’ have become a lightning rod for marijuana activists and have left courts, family attorneys and Child Protective Services (CPS) unsure of where the lines are drawn in this brave new world of legalized cannabis. (read more)
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Of course medical weed products are everywhere here in LA, sold legally. My mother with numerous issues from stage four cancer and old age tried the creams on her hands and feet and swears they are miracle cures. I know lots of other people who also say these thing work extremely well. I never believed they did much, but I'm starting to believe from all the people I talk to. They are very expensive.
One night my mother was in a panic, and telling me she was dying right there and then, and wanted to go to the emergency room. I called 911 and we went. After about an hour she said she was fine and wanted to go home. The next day, she didn't remember going, but admitted that she had eaten an edible pot cookie. That first high can be a zinger. She doesn't use the edibles after that, but still swears by the creams.
If you live in Kansas, you don't want to be tagged as a "marijuana activist".
But why would an adult want to be labeled as such anyway?
They have more than 5 kids. Kansas only took 5 of them.
But here is the real story, half way down the page:
"Schwab says that one of the relatives caring for his children (whom he declines to name) took them to the police station, saying their parents had abandoned them to go work on a pot farm in Colorado. That was in April last year, and Schwab says he has only seen his children three times since then.
The communications director for the Kansas department of children and families (DCF) declined to comment on the Schwab case but said that “children are not removed from the home for [parental] marijuana use alone”."
The rest is bullshit, the title is clickbait.
I used to be a pot smoker. I don't understand the medical aspect of it. I find it hard to believe.
Thanks John.
I was a pot smoker at the age I had four wisdom teeth pulled. After I got back home I smoked, and the pain went away. It does work.
I'm sorry to hear about your mom, Bago. The pic you posted of her and the dogs was very sweet, she looks like a wonderful person.
Thanks, Deb, but she's currently doing just fine. Her doctors told her she would be dead a year ago, so I moved her out to LA to take care of her at the end. After about 18 months, still feeling just fine, but missing her friends back in Florida, and bored here, she moved back there last week. She insisted on driving her car all the way back (2700 miles) accompanied by my sister. She got a speeding ticket in Arizona for doing 91 mph in a 75 mph zone. At 82, with cancer everywhere, two artificial knees, one kidney, and half her intestines removed, she is sharp, and more irrepressible than ever. She drives and walks everywhere, rides a bicycle, and irritates the hell out of us all for sport. I think she just has the cancer scared into submission.
lol she making sport of you all did not come through in the pic. Glad she's doing well. May we all age and face adversity as stolidly as she.
she got a speeding ticket in Arizona for doing 91 mph in a 75 mph zone. At 82...
Your mom rocks, Bags.
John - yeah thanks. Abandoning your own kids for pot if pure crap.
I don't have a doubt that pot works in alleviating pain and anxiety and other things. I don't doubt it, but the pot of yesteryear isn't the pot of today. The THC levels are much much higher than they have ever been. Old school weed was in the 3% - 6% THC levels. Now it's in the high 20's to 30's. Those concentrations create much more adverse effects.
That said, I would denounce the state of Kansas for doing some like this. It's stupid, wreckless, needless, and unwarranted. The state must not be allowed to insinuate itself like this anymore. It just can't be allowed to do it. The burden of due process by actions of the state are onerous and should be unconstitutional. In that I mean, the state can't create a situation by which it can take punitive action against you, without due process, then force you to monetarily defend yourself against it's actions in a court of law. Even if you win, you still lose because the state is either shielded, has immunity, or must go through that same judicial process to seek damages.
I got clicked baited and I bit.
Our Choom Prez[as edutcher calls him] is showing his hypocrisy once again. While I am a strong proponent of medical cannabis and think it should also be legal for recreational use, I understand there are people who disagree. Some who disagree are reasonable, most are emotional. However, Obama was asked by a fellow Dem this past week to help push through simple legislation that would take cannabis off the DEA Schedule 1 classification. It is INSANE for it to be classified Schedule 1. No reasonable person can disagree w/ that. Obama declined to help.
John, I read that money quote and in that vein it still makes no sense to me. You don't grab 5 kids into state custody because of weed, but yet the state neglected to say why they did it as a matter of public record and the parents are saying it's because of pot. If the state says that weed isn't the only factor, then they are obligated to state why. The parents haven't been arrested that I saw, so what is the real deal here?
I think April nailed it. He left his kids (to get drugs) with a relative who turned him in to CPS. He seems to have a long history of drug abuse, and addiction, so maybe the relative thought the kids needed to get away from that situation. I am reading between the lines a bit.
Also, I don't think the state can discuss with a reporter as to "why" they have kids in their custody.
Of course medical weed products are everywhere here in LA, sold legally. My mother with numerous issues from stage four cancer and old age tried the creams on her hands and feet and swears they are miracle cures. I know lots of other people who also say these thing work extremely well. I never believed they did much, but I'm starting to believe from all the people I talk to. They are very expensive.
Glad to hear they're helping. Part of the problem with weed is that its restricted legal status hindered a hell of a lot of research that could have been done on it all this time. In the meantime, an Israeli named Raphael Mechoulam took up the slack and made some of the basic physiological breakthroughs in figuring out what it actually does in the body. Every neurologically active commercially available drug you know of works on a neurotransmitter that has at least a 50-year head start on its basic research over cannabinoids: serotonin, epinephrine, acetylcholine, dopamine, etc. What a shame and a waste to know how much time and work we've lost by moralizing our way into a state of self-enforced ignorance and denial over this thing. And as for cancer itself, there's evidence to suggest that it might even be active against the disease itself. Weed smokers actually decrease their risk for lung cancer compared to tobacco smokers. Imagine that.
Kansas is a real shit state. While it wages the war on weed, one thing that it lobbies to channel its way into your body and your grocery stores is patented GMO Frankenfood - at the expense of the stricter regulations on the latter (even as regards something as innocuous as labelling) that you may want to enact and should have every right to enact in your own state. What a horrible bass-awkward set of priorities. Pro-Monsanto, anti-home-grown painkillers. Every government official there should be shot on sight.
Obama was asked by a fellow Dem this past week to help push through simple legislation that would take cannabis off the DEA Schedule 1 classification. It is INSANE for it to be classified Schedule 1. No reasonable person can disagree w/ that. Obama declined to help.
And trust me, Hillary will be even worse. That fucking bitch.
Every government official there should be shot on sight.
Yee haw, lets go bushwack them Kansans. You be Jesse, I'll be Frank.
Ahh Sam Shepard and Brad Pitt.
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