Apologies. You're probably sick of this guy. I sure am. Die already, Gruber, die!
You've undoubtedly heard of the 5th Gruber video ridiculing a legislator's concerns as something his adolescent child might have written. That in lieu of answering his concerns directly. Why ridicule and not a direct straightforward answer? Because he cannot answer. On the spot, ridicule is the only option for arrogant asses when cornered.
“Any Hsaio-Gruber type health care mega-system will inevitably lead to coercive mandates, ballooning costs, increased taxes, bureaucratic outrages, shabby facilities, disgruntled providers, long waiting times, lower quality care, special interest nest-feathering, and destructive wages and price controls.”
Sounds reasonable to me. Answer that.John McCloughry, former Vermont state senator
Oh, how we all laughed and laughed. Such silliness.
Democrats, this is why your despicably cynical party had its asses handed it at all levels of government. Learn anything?
No.
And you've undoubtedly read about the 6th video in which the so-called Cadillac tax is discussed as a way to sneak taxes on Americans over time so that years down the line they will be impossible to repeal and so ridiculous an amount to pay at a 40% rate that employers will dump them all onto the federal plan by then,
This plan is already law and it taxes high-end healthcare plans by 40% as it links that rate of taxation to the Consumer Price Index in the form of repealing healthcare exemption rather than linking to the amount that healthcare actually rises.
Healthcare costs rise considerably faster than Consumer Price Index, so the exemption does not keep up with the actual cost of healthcare. Until it becomes untenable and employers drop coverage altogether. But the ACA framers cannot say that. They must be sneaky about it. According to Gruber's models within 20 years all healthcare plans will fall under the definition of Cadillac plan, and mission accomplished. Voters fooled. Because voters have short attention spans, you see, and cannot keep up with discussions about convoluted plans described over 1000 pages of gobbledygook. Silly voters and their short attention spans.
It is clarifying to contrast this with McCain's suggestion at that point of already accepting the ACA bill, of a straight tax exemption equal to its cost that would straightforwardly have taxpayers come out even. No. Obama wanted healthcare to be taxed. He wants the whole thing for healthcare to be profit center for federal government.
Consider, employer supplied healthcare is part of employee's benefit package. When they dump healthcare onto the federal plan as they eventually must then to keep even they must then compensate their employees for the loss of their plans by paying them incrementally more. That income will be taxed. So then, under Obama's plan the employee will be taxed twice. Once for increased wages and again on their so-called Cadillac plans.
Cadillac should sue for infringement.
And this party expects to be trusted.
I keep hearing the figure of $400,000 paid through Health and Human Services to Gruber for this immoral monstrosity. Over and over and over I read that, at least fifteen times today, and I just heard it again on the news. Just short of half a million dollars and that is an unconscionable amount indeed. Your tax money spent on tricking the entire electorate and then ridiculed for having been so tricked.
That's not even half of it.
Health and Human Services also paid Gruber $2,000,000 for an ongoing contract. To keep him on hand to sort for them the convolutions that he created.
Minnesota paid $329,000 to Gruber for his help in sorting his own mess.
Michigan paid $481,050.
Wisconsin paid Gruber $400,000 to attend a meeting and for the same cookie cutter information package.
Vermont paid Gruber $400.000.
West Virginia paid Gruber for the same information package.
Main paid Gruber for the same information package.
Colorado paid Gruber for the same information package.
Oregon paid Gruber for the same information package.
Gruber bilked the federal government, its departments, and individual states to provide them with as big a mess as possible so that the public cannot possibly penetrate it while still having their own lives, straight out of the Cloward-Piven handbook. He is a crook plain and simple despite his smirking arrogant hand-wringing complexity.
And there will be no justice in this country until he is treated as such.
Sweetness and Light
Ha.
We await the 7th...
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The problem is that for guys like Gruber, an academic, the chances are next to nil that he and his family will be personally affected by this ACA scheming. And that is the flash point of enragement for most people I think -- that these people dictate and engineer healthcare for others but not for themselves. They justify it by thinking that the middle class needs to support the poor -- not their class.
Assuming that Little Zero really wants to go ahead with amnesty, it would seem his flanks and rear are more exposed than Kim Kardashian's over this and pressing ahead would open him to a frontal assault the likes the world hasn't seen since Leda dated the swan.
I'm willing to bet we're coming up to the time when the I word ceases to be as unthinkable as some want to believe.
You are dreaming Ed.
If the Jug Eared Jesus is impeached there will not be a liquor store left standing in America.
People want to buy their Holiday cordials!
What I see is how frustrating it seems for Megan Kelly et all having what is essentially smoking gun evidence against Obama and not be able to move anything or anybody against him.
I think she knows this but the compelling nature of what has been uncovered keeps her from giving up and moving on.
This episode reminds me of when the lame defense of Bill Clinton worked. He lied about sex, who hasn't... never minds that it was under oath.
Obama doesn't seem to need to bother himself with a defense.
They need him fresh for amnesty... I could imagine them thinking.
We seem to know that whatever we find it will not be used against Obama.
That unjust realization, which pretty much goes unspoken outside forums like this one, where people are free to speak their minds (if I say so myself) makes a target like Gruber all the more vital in the exercise seeing to it that someone pays for what has been done. Even if its not who should ultimately pay.
So yea. Lets keep digging and finding all there is and even if it doesn't lead to what it should (repeal) maybe it will shame the press, even if only a little, for looking the other way, betraying their profession.
Last I heard outside of Fox only CNN Jake Tapper was airing the Gruber story.
Lem said...
Last I heard outside of Fox only CNN Jake Tapper was airing the Gruber story.
The rest are barrying it.
Because rest never wakes.
Cloaked by networks.
Doesn't matter.
They didn't cover any of the malfeasance and look what happened to them. Not only did the information get out but their reputations for covering news are destroyed as well.
And if that Bill O'Reilly doesn't stop putting on that bell end Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz, his reputation will sink the same way.
I just saw one of the Guber videos linked on a British site.
Naturally a British member pipped up and delivered the standard Nanny state pov in their sanctimonious self-regarding socialist style, that is, full of reeking poo. "Yeah, all this to avoid accepting free healthcare."
Oh, you silly silly person. You really do not grasp the meaning of "free." I let him have it POW right in his comments. Abandoned all propriety because he abandoned first with his arrogance. British are like that sometimes so snivelingly unctuous they slide. I remind them how provincial they are, actually, on their quaint little island. Usually about guns. I managed it all, filled in the blank spaces right up and over the top, but concisely, and without using the word cunt.
A minor feat, that.
They hate me and I don't care anymore.
I gave the owner of the site $25.00 (only £16) to avoid being banned because I intend to keep vexing them.
It's fun.
Knocking their pointed little heads together.
And I've been so well behave until now.
Sovietize the Serenity prayer:
Mankind, grant me the improbity to conceal what I cannot change,
The temerity to demand others change the things only I can,
And apathy in them to knowing any difference.
ABC NBC CBS - all a crock of pro-democrat crap.
Peas, Peas, Peas, Peas, eating Gruber peas.
Goodness how delicious, eating Gruber peas.
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