...even though Phil Robertson's suspension was temporary, and he did not miss any filming of the new season:
"There were high expectations for season premiere on January 15th after the weeks of free publicity the show received due to Robertson’s comments about homosexuality and the subsequent, short-lived “suspension” he was given by A&E. But the notion that an even larger Christian conservative audience would flock to the show in support of Robertson was dispelled after the first episode of the season on Wednesday, January 15th drew 8.5 million viewers, a 28% drop from the fourth season premiere last August, which had 11.8 million. It was more on par with the third season premiere in February 2013, which had 8.6 million.
This week’s episode, with 6.6 million viewers, marked another large drop from the second episode of the fourth season, which had 8.5 million viewers. In the 18-49 demographic that is particularly attractive the advertisers, the show also saw a decline. While last season’s premiere had a 5.0 rating, this week’s episode was just 2.9. That put it below network competition like American Idol (4.5) and Modern Family(3.4)."
This is puzzling. Even if the number of viewers didn't increase, such a drastic drop means many loyal viewers aren't watching. Any guesses as to why? I have a notion but I'd like to hear yours first.
156 comments:
I suspect it's fatigue and "To hell with the whole thing."
They were unique at first, but now it's just another reality show.
Short answer. Which is always the best.
One way to improve ratings at this stage of the game, would be to have one of them get too close to a flame, and then... woooooph! Off goes the facial and long hair.
The good news is WalMart's going to have to start discounting all that Duck Dynasty novelty crap.
I couldn't say why the decline.
I had never watched the show until all the broohaha about gay people, God and where guys want to stick their penises. I went and saw the first episode on netflix (or something) I wasn't impressed. Just another dumb unreal reality show. Kind of funny and rather harmless as far as I could see in the first show.
Short answer: AllenS is correct.
"I had never watched the show until all the broohaha about gay people, God and where guys want to stick their penises."
Wow - even in going over what Phil did wrong - you left out his comments about blacks.
But you're NOT racists - it's "colorblindness" in action.
Riiiight.
Crack -
You should know by now that you just need to take a back seat to the gay issues.
It's not that entertaining. People stayed with it, and tuned into it, because of the controversy then left after the controversy died down.
They had a huge unexpected spike; a huge expected decline must follow.
But the answer some want to hear is that the Ducks "were on the wrong side of history" regret everything, and want to make the world glaader place.
Gotta run now deborah but I'll check back for the "real" reason.
Time for everyone to get a makeover!
Crack, The things you've started saying about Blacks is far worse than what any hillbilly cracker on TV does.
The Crack Emcee said...
Wow - even in going over what Phil did wrong - you left out his comments about blacks.
But you're NOT racists - it's "colorblindness" in action.
This is a fair comment in the sense that equally offensive comments on blacks were ignored. But this is a good reason for you to continue to participate in this forum, to give another perspective, in which facts are valued differently. I also agree with your comments on Walker's record, for which the fate of blacks in his state is essentially ignored.
I think you are being too harsh in calling anyone racist over this issue. No one sees the whole picture all the time. This is the whole point of communicating, to get other perspectives.
"I had never watched the show until all the broohaha about gay people, God and where guys want to stick their penises."
Wow - even in going over what Phil did wrong - you left out his comments about blacks.
I just said. I never watched the show. How would I know what he said about blacks? I'm not a psychic.
I love the show. Especially when I'm just getting into bed and can relax and laugh about wholesome, silly stuff. Didn't love it the first episode, though. It grew on me, and even though I know all of this "reality" is scripted I think the love and loyalty of this family shines through, warts and all.
The reason for the decline? I have watched FAR less TV since the cold snap - don't know about anyone else. I'm just too tired after a 3 hour daily commute to stay awake for a show. I want to get in my jammies and sleep.
AReasonableMan,
I think you are being too harsh in calling anyone racist over this issue. No one sees the whole picture all the time. This is the whole point of communicating, to get other perspectives.
I'm using the tools these fools handed me.
I'll stop when they do.
Dust Bunny Queen,
"I just said. I never watched the show. How would I know what he said about blacks? I'm not a psychic."
But - without watching - you know about the gay comments.
Pathetic.
bagoh20 said...
Time for everyone to get a makeover!
Crack, The things you've started saying about Blacks is far worse than what any hillbilly cracker on TV does.
You can't see it, but I'm bowing as low as I can.
Praying for you, Crack.
Folks, Crack is declaring that he is going to control the content of this blog.
Every post and every commenter has to answer to his obsession.
I'm finished commenting here if that's the way it's going to be
LEM, as I said, Crack is going to leave you little choice except to ban him both on the sidebar and in the comments. Otherwise, it's his blog.
I don't want to read Crack's blog.
When I was little, the nuns, during prayer time, asked that we say a silent prayer for the people of hungry. I raised my hand and suggested we just take up a food collection. Seemed reasonable at the time.
One evening my mom asked if we kids were ready for dinner, I said "I'm very of hungry."
I'm not sure even back then if I prayed for anyone other than myself, and usually only for a passing grade, or not to get found out.
Seemed even then that praying for someone else in particular was a form of pity, and who could be more pitiable than me? In school we did pray for one kid or another when he or she ended up in the hospital with a broken arm or appendicitis, or for the family when my schoolmate was killed in a car accident, or for the family who's dad lost his job.
Me praying for someone who has strayed from the path of righteousness was kind of a joke, being that I have always been rather ignorant as to its location.
Shouting you are a big boy. I hear you still comment at TOP where the discussion is dominated in every thread by a deranged wombat.
I know you ride the subway. Haven't you ever been on a car where a crazy person is spouting nonsense. You just ignore him and go about you business.
It is the New York way dude.
The ratings for all reality shows have taken a hit. The Real Housewives ratings are down. Honey Boo Boo's ratings are down.
Things always cool off. It is nothing new. The controversy had some effect but how can you measure it?
@john
That was funny and interesting. I disagree about prayer. I pray every day for many, especially for my son.
I believe in prayer and not only am I in need of prayer, but I'd be honored that anyone prayed for me.
I meant it sincerely.
What Troop said about reality.
They've done it for close to 20 years.
Time to get back to Westerns or something.
AnUnreasonableTroll said...
Wow - even in going over what Phil did wrong - you left out his comments about blacks.
But you're NOT racists - it's "colorblindness" in action.
This is a fair comment in the sense that equally offensive comments on blacks were ignored
No, after Choom and Holder have maxed out their race cards, nobody cares any more.
It's like saying you don't like the Micks or the Dutchmen.
Darcy said…
Praying for you, Crack.
Because of my other "obsessions" I take that very seriously and thank you.
@Trooper,
I've endured the ravings of every kind of madman and madwoman you can imagine during my years in NYC and Woodstock.
edutcher,
No, after Choom and Holder have maxed out their race cards, nobody cares any more.
And, thus, you have made no one care about you. That's why conservatives can no longer win.
This country's racist history - which, like it or not, you and I are participating in - is a verifiable fact.
You want to say "don't care"? Fine - you lose, no mercy, no discussion, no compromise. What did Obama just say?
Fuck Congress - that's you.
Did you hear a peep out of anyone? Nope.
Because nobody has to care about the people who don't care.
You have given permission to run you over as you want to run over others with your "don't care".
It won't work. We don't care. It can look like shit. We don't care. It might even be wrong - in an America that's been run by the likes of you?
We don't care.
I told you:
It's cultural - not political - and that's why the process won't work for you now.
Culture's an area of American life racist whites don't have a leg to stand on,...
These were Robertson's comments about blacks in the GQ interview:
“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field…. They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!… Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”
In my reading, those observations are obviously based on his own experience, and not an evaluation of the entire Jim Crow South at that time. But I can't know for sure because the writer of that interview in GQ didn't provide any context for the remarks -- nothing about the conversation they were having just before or any follow-on discussion. They are stand-alone, simply provided in a call-out text box.
Full GQ article here.
I don't know much about all this but it does strike me as a bit odd that Robertson would expect that black people would feel comfortable complaining to him about white people, in general, since he's not really a white person.
I'm not calling him stupid for that. There's some line in a Robert Burns poem about seeing ourselves as others see us.
"To a Louse?"
Anyway, I'll check it out to see if my hunch is at all close to the mark.
"O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion:
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us,
An' ev'n devotion!"
Meh. A swing and a miss.
That seems to be more about the virtues that stem from modesty; the folly of vanity.
I'm guessing that Robertson's got that covered, already.
Gang, my reasoning for the big drop was people who were fans not only got an over-dose of the guy, but his Christian base may not have been too thrilled with the tape of him preaching his anti-gay sermon a couple years ago. Holier than thou preachifying...wearing camo in church, as if his branding was end-all be-all. Just a guess.
I think this family really made their fortune cookin' meth.
The reason for the big drop is that the show "jumped the shark", like most television products do, and it happened well before Phil Robertson expressed his views about sex and sin.
The show became cartoonish, contrived and tiresome. The premise was stretched past what engineers call "the elastic region". And being especially true to the origin of "jump the shark" (which refers to the Hawaii episode of "Happy Days", in which a surfing Fonzie literally jumps over a shark), the last shred of "Duck Dynasty's" likeability evaporated when they made a Hawaiian vacation episode.
Also, overexposure. People get sick of seeing things after a while.
From the brief bits I saw of it, I loathed it.
A&E ran Duck Dynasty marathons seemingly non-stop over the holidays. Doesn't overexposure usually reduce interest?
Well A&E deserves it for running this crap in the first place. Pretty much true with all reality shows in my worthless opinion.
Christy, it's common to run marathons for all types of shows before a new season's release.
I'm going to go with AllenS's suggestion, because it is short.
(AllenS is THE master of the short, succinct comment that gets immediately to the point, without meandering all over the place, going from this point to that and getting lost along the way, never really getting anywhere at all and never making a point, and even if it did who would notice because it just goes ON and ON and ON, giving one the impression of MacBeth's "Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow" lament (I've heard Patrick Stewart state that Ian McKellan told him the emphasis should be on the 'and's in the line), and ... where was I? Yeah, AllenS, man, that guy's writing is just TIGHT. TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT! Yeah!)
I was one of the people who first tuned in to Duck Dynasty just prior to the 4th Season, and thus bolstered their 4th Season premier.
But I'm completely caught up now. I get what it is about, but since A&E has no problem threatening their biggest money maker, while also airing it 5 hours a day; I have plenty of opportunity to catchup with the show on another day. So I expect the numbers to be diluted. Besides, the rating year on year are roughly the same.
I'm also with Darcy, by the time I come home from work, with the dark winter nights; I'm ready to snuggle in bed rather than watch the latest premier of Duck Dynasty at 9pm.
I wouldn't be surprised for others to say "over-exposed" or "sell-out", because I saw enough Duck Dynasty during the holiday season clogging the aisles of all sorts of stores, not just Walmart.
Leland for the win. Very logical.
As long as it doesn't get in the way of my weekly Downton Abbey viewing.
Don't get me wrong, it will still carry a sizeable amount of viewers. Solely, because of the characters.
And, on the plus side, they are actually real people. A real family with a history to match their story.
No laugh track also helps.
They also put their religion, money and family values where a lot of other people's mouth is. The oldest boy and his wife adopted a bi-racial child. Why? Because they believe they should spread their life story to other people.
That child isn't featured with a liberal bullshit story about "Oh, look at us. Look at this bi-racial child that we adopted."
Good on them.
I was going to do another comment about compare Crack's story with the Robertson's, but I decided not to.
Thanks deborah.
I also agree with AllenS, particularly his 3:57 response. I suspect DD to continue to have a decent following for all the reasons he provided. Oh, and not only an adopted bi-racial child, but also Taiwanese former exchange student turned foster child.
They walk the walk.
They quack the quack.
I never thought of that, Troop. They even have the instruments!
About reality shows.
The people who are on it don't really control anything. The producers run the show. They only like to do what has been done before. That is why I think the Duck Dynasty guys want to break away from A&E and do their own thing. They would be smart to do that. They would be even more popular if they did. But they have a contract and will be stuck doing producer driven bullshit until the momentum of their show peters out.
It is the way it works.
I think if the Duck Dynasty did a real show with a "conservative" slant and showcasing religious and culturally conservative values they would be immensely popular.
Look at American Idol. It was reborn this season when it went to a more audience friendly judges panel with out the fighting between idiot divas that drove down the ratings last season. Harry Connick Jr. is revitalizing the show by doing stuff like telling 15year old girls that filthy lyrics are not appropriate for them to sing. Conservative social values can sell very well.
@ phx
As long as it doesn't get in the way of my weekly Downton Abbey viewing.
Really? I thought Downton jumped the shark too this season. I was inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt because it's not their fault Dan Stevens didn't want to renew his contract. On the other hand, rehashing that whole Edna storyline made me turn off the TV.
Sherlock is so much better.
You're on my list, Darcy.
I agree with Downton Abbey. The first few episodes really sucked. You don't want to watch that show for rapes and out of wedlock births.
That's what "Basketball Wives" is for.
If Shawn Kemp were awake he would say that is racist.
I never watched the show. I had the vague impression that they were like Kardashians for older, more conservative people......Reality shows tend to feature people living unreal lives. If you want an honest, hard look at the way life is lived in Americs, you can't beat the Simpsons.
@ Trooper
lol
Thanks, I completely forgot about the rape. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
@ Birches, Well I thought Downtown Abbey was gonna jump the shark when they killed off Matthew last season. But they've rallied. It's okay this season, in my worthless opinion.
Sherlock's great. Equal to DA. Just don't have all that time.
Harry Connick Jr. is revitalizing the show by doing stuff like telling 15year old girls that filthy lyrics are not appropriate for them to sing. Conservative social values can sell very well.
Ha ha. You are right there! Gotta love HC Jr. Did you see him teaching those co-panelist about pentatonic scales, too? They didn't know about any of that stuff. It was pretty good tv.
I'm not very big on the reality fare though. Every now and then DWTS. I can watch a few minutes of Idol. I used to watch Amerika's Top Model but that was only a season or two, probably at the beginning. All those extraverts. Yeeesh.
You guys are my favorite reality show.
Has anyone been over to Crack's blog? How would you like to be a biracial child and have him adopt you?
phx said...
You guys are my favorite reality show
Why thank you!
We don't subscribe to the channels that provide these shows you all are discussing. American Idol is on Fox I think. I've only seen Youtube clips. Don't get A&E so I've never seen the Duck Dynasty until I picked up one of the old shows on Netflix. I really had no idea who they were until all the crap on the internet made me curious.
No Nat Geo. No Discovery Channel. No History Channel. No DIY etc I do miss those last few, but really most of the other channels were either crap that we never watched or sports, which we don't watch much of either. Why pay over a hundred dollars a month or $1400 a year to watch just a very few shows. The news shows also suck. 24/7 the same thing over and over. By the time I have looked at a few internet sites in the morning, the news on TV is old news.
Almost all of our viewing is through Netflix, Amazon Prime,some on Hulu. We can buy the episodes we want, if they aren't already free, and come out way ahead financially. Most of the time we don't even watch anything and just listen to Pandora or an ITunes mix of the hundreds and hundreds of songs we have downloaded or ripped from CDs.
Often, we just enjoy the silence of two people reading in the evening and share snippets of our books with each other.
DBQ, you racist, I hear you.
I have the standard DirecTV package, because it is easier than teaching the wife and daughters Netflix and Hulu, which have different engines. I learned about Duck Dynasty through my daughters, who watched from the beginning.
But since you mention it, do you still like Netflix? I'm finding it pretty stale. I've caught up on various shows they had that I liked. There's simply not much there to be interesting. Where as Hulu is as good as DVR for all networks not owned by Viacom. Whatever I can't find on Hulu, but I might find on Netflix, I typically find on Amazon Prime, which to me is a freebee, because I purchase Prime for the 2day shipping. I'm quickly considering packing up the Blu-ray, and purchasing all my movies on Amazon.
phx watches "Amerika's Top Model"
In case anyone missed that.
@ Leland
LOL. No I'm not actually southern although my family is from that general area. Raised in the California Bay Area from 5th grade on. SO, I guess, I'm a reformed hippy dippy ex-flowerchild who saw the light at about the age of 20.
Netflix is good for us, because we missed so many shows previously that we can now watch at our leisure. Not so much for the movies though since the newer ones or some of those that I would really like to see are available in DVD only. Really looking forward to the next episodes of House of Cards on Netflix.
Amazon Prime rocks. We also subscribed for the free shipping and have gotten our money's worth for sure. The shows and movies are also a major plus.
Hulu....only has a few shows that we like to watch and even then they are only available for a limited period of time....so if you don't watch..they expire from the lineup. We might drop it sometime soon.
All in all, since switching to a Roku box, our quality of entertainment has really gotten so much better.
"Has anyone been over to Crack's blog?"
Judging from the pathetic traffic and his ebegging for money, I'm going to guess the answer is either "no" or "very very few."
We don't have cable/sat either. No netflix or hulu plus either. We built our own DVR so we can record network TV. I've never paid for TV; it seems obscene to spend that much money.
I didn't lose interested because of what he said in the interview. The old scraggly beard guy lost me in the video linked here when he's on stage addressing a congregation and going all old-testament prophet sounding (paraphrasing Paul answering un-Jesus-like), apparently the tone appeals to him, a very un-Jesus-like tone that turns me flat right off. Does he think Christians do not know what Jesus sounds like? It ruins everything. Everything from him specifically.
The rest of them, eh.
And then later unrelated to this, a conservative site links to a story of a son who is not sorry for shooting a prowler.
Turns out the father went after the prowler with his rifle. Saw his getaway car and took the keys from it. The prowler came up from behind and attacked the Dad. They fought. Prowler took control of the rifle. The son suddenly appears and shoots the prowler.
Their house is out there in the sticks at the end of dirt road. The photo shows a shack in isolation. No other houses around. Both father and son look like Robertson family cousins, long scraggly beards.
And that shows you people like this really do exist, recluses for the most part so you hardly see them. Like Sasquatch.
Any child of any race would be fortunate to have for a father the person known as the Crack Emcee. He's a man of principle, compassion, and intelligence. And he would make an outstanding teacher, mentor, or parent.
Total horsepucky, Meade, but understandable considering the source.
William, you're wrong about The Simpsons, they got respectable and went chicken, total submission to PC. South Park has kept it's courage.
its not it's
Trooper @1:41 and Palladian@ 3:04 pretty much nail it. I enjoy the show (especially the dry humor and dead-pan straight-to-the-camera delivery of brother Jase) but the Hawaiian vacay bit was I even thought at the time, a strained, over-the-top
potential jump-the-shark moment..
Smart comment by Lydia at 2:07. Others here should try to raise their games to her level.
Uh oh. Look busy. Meade's here.
lol.
Yeah, mister meade. I wuz jes' tellin' 'em, youse folks gots t raise yo game. mister meade gonna be here and watchoo think he gonna say when he sees wad you lazy good fo' nuffins pass off as comments? Hmmm? Mizz Lydia, now she mighty smart and got sumpin' say. You could all larn a thing or too from that she womin I sez. Raze yo games I sez. But thaze so lazy mister meade. I dunno what c'n be dun wid 'em. I triez bud thay ain't nuthin' fo me to do fo' it.
Now Meade, I did think, as always, my comments were pretty insightful and entertaining, as always. Much better than Lydia's, for example. Much better.
I can hold my breath twice as long, too.
The Simpsons this past Sunday had some good lines, not PC really at all.
I think together for instance, me and Trooper York are the Neal Cassady and Jack Kerouac of Lem's Almighty Levity.
Some of you may beg to differ of course.
Meade said...
Any child of any race would be fortunate to have for a father the person known as the Crack Emcee. He's a man of principle, compassion, and intelligence. And he would make an outstanding teacher, mentor, or parent.
I'm just glad that Meade's grammatical mood is conditional and not unconditional.
LOL
Meade's putting you on. You just can't see that.
phx said...
Uh oh. Look busy. Meade's here.
That reminded me of the time when we were in the basement over at TOP, smoking blog one morning when Althouse came home yelled at us from upstairs.
This was posted at Crack's today, by anonymous:
"Lem, break free man. You can do it, run off that plantation and never look back. All those people on your blog are not your friends, they are using you to attack people they hate. They made your blog onto something nasty and ugly. Why did Freeman Hunt leave, why doesn't PattyO hardly ever comment? Why do you let them trat Meade so badly? They were good to you over on Althouse. Why is it that all of Trooper York's people are your co bloggers now except Deborah who still has some independent thought and decency. Damn Lem, man up!
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1203082776419426855&postID=78081913730586770
deborah was the anonymous who wrote that?
The spelling errors tell me it was either Trooper York or Titus. Possibly ricpic.
Spelling errors are common misdirectors.
I see a lot of Titus at Crack too, Meade. And Inga.
Your wife's blog is absolutely infested with Inga. I looked other there the other day and thought "I can't believe I used to wallow in that."
Meade said...
The spelling errors tell me it was either Trooper York or Titus. Possibly ricpic.
An obviously sincere effort to spread peace, love and understanding.
Crack must absolutely love all the traffic you're driving him, BTW.
Was that the plan?
I'm driving Crack traffic? News to me. If his traffic is up, I suspect it's mostly coming from here. Or else from Trooper's super duper top secret clubhouse.
Inga has moxie. I love moxie.
deborah said...
"Spelling errors are common misdirectors."
Oh, so it WAS deborah. Interesting.
Inga has moxie. I love moxie.
A tad over done don't you think?
Yeah, when Inga starts in on a thread over at TOP, my eyes usually glaze over and that's the last time I read through that posting.
Her ability to pick up new trolls who will fight with her is remarkable.
Why would anonymous make a comment directed to Lem at Crack's blog?
I love a mystery.
Why are you reposting that quote here, deborah?
Not that you or anyone else owes me an answer for anything.
You guys don't think Lem posted that comment to himself at crack's blog, do you?
What if Lem has multiple personalities? We may be in danger.
AllenS said...
Has anyone been over to Crack's blog? How would you like to be a biracial child and have him adopt you?
Talking to my kid that looks white:
"O.K., look - they're gonna follow me around the store - and, when they do, you grab all they shit and run like Hell!"
Talking to my kid that looks black:
"O.K., look - they're gonna follow me around the store,…"
RAAAACIST.
ROTFLMAO!!!
Why are you reposting that quote here, deborah?
Maybe she liked the flattery?
Just a guess.
Why did you cut and paste it here, deborah?
Who can't use a little positive encouragement? Especially if it's deserved. A lot of us probably think those are three pretty good people.
The good thing about Crack's blog is that he flushes it frequently so the posts don't linger. That's better than I do.
LOL
Lem lying in bed at night looking up at the ceiling:
"Lem, break free man. You can do it, run off that plantation and never look back. All those people on your blog are not your friends, they are using you to attack people they hate. They made your blog onto something nasty and ugly. Why did Freeman Hunt leave, why doesn't PattyO hardly ever comment? Why do you let them trat Meade so badly? They were good to you over on Althouse. Why is it that all of Trooper York's people are your co bloggers now except Deborah who still has some independent thought and decency. Damn Lem, man up!"
A lot of us probably think those are three pretty good people.
There are three people mentioned in that comment.
LOL
I see Meade's bored with Althouse commenters again, so he's over at Lem's. I get it. But you would think he would quit being an ass when he comes over here.
There are three people mentioned in that comment.
Yeah, the three I was talking about.
I like the pics of them before the show when one of them has major blonde highlights....total southern version of a metrosexual.....in other words all wrong.
phx watches "Amerika's Top Model"
In case anyone missed that.
When you tell on others, Armatel, you're really telling on yourself. You're saying, "I'm a tattletale."
Ah, I needed that.
Phx, you don't mind if I say "fuck you" to you occasionally? If you do I can say it to Trooper York or something...
Hey big boy smile when you that.
Just don't touch yourself.
That would be gross. Just sayn'
Where is this coming from? I think you have misunderstood the thread.
Aaaahhh...he just likes me.
120 comments? Something ugly is probably happening down below. Do I dare look?
The Crack Emcee attacked AllenS and said...
blah blah blah...
RAAAACIST.
ROTFLMAO!!!
How long now before Crack posts a personal tirade against Allen as he's done to DBQ, Trooper, Haz, Me, Sixty, et al.?
This is how predictable Crack has become. It's sad. "Smart" people like Meade tell me this is all just "art" but wait...how can something so obvious and predictable be art?
Bad artists mistake predictability for art.
Give us some sugar, Palladian. Come on now.
Chip Ahoy is somebody's people? Who knew!
I'm more of a savory man, phx.
Had we but world enough and time, Palladian...
This coyness, Lady, were no crime.
Even if the number of viewers didn't increase, such a drastic drop means many loyal viewers aren't watching.
Is there a need for an explanation beyond "people got tired of it"? Most shows decline eventually, even cultural phenomenons. Remember "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire"? That skyrocketed and then dropped off in fairly short order, if I recall.
Could be, Rev, but we'll never know because of the brouhaha in between the seasons. I suspect the drop would not have been as precipitous without it.
I think that Pogo is Dead was correct in the very first post.
Even if you agree with Robertson, it's tiring to be reminded when you just want to relax and watch someone blow something up and pray over dinner.
chicken little,
This is how predictable Crack has become. It's sad. "Smart" people like Meade tell me this is all just "art" but wait...how can something so obvious and predictable be art?
When you guys stop doing posts about the whites of South Africa, and how awful black kids are taking over the planet using The Knockout Game (where is that? Didn't your oracle, Matt Drudge, say it was sweeping the nation?) when you can stop siding with the election-losing Tea Party, and maybe even do a post blacks might actually appreciate - rather than the lame bullshit you're into that affects nobody - THEN we can talk about predictable.
The only thing predictable about my site, now, is me calling you a racist.
And as soon as you stop acting like one, that'll change, too.
Palladian
Bad artists mistake predictability for art.
And you're not a bad artist, why again?
Oh yeah - you're gay.
It's like the Grammy's:
White and gay beats black and talented to white folks - and you treat it like it's progress rather than further slavery bullshit enacted by gays.
At least that gay guy was honest,...
(And by "agree with Robertson" I mean, feel that his comments were taken out of context and inflated.)
"...when you can stop siding with the election-losing Tea Party,"
You thought no one should vote for Romney. No one voted for McCain. The "moderate" Republicans lose... and we're not supposed to side with Ted Cruz.
Maybe we should all side with Obama?
"We should vote for who can win, and vote for Romney."
Crack: "No you shouldn't!"
"We should vote on principle even if it's a minority."
Crack: "No you shouldn't!"
Well, okay then.
I finally "get" Crack. He is like the inside of an enzyme, trying to lower our barrier to change. But he only uses repulsive forces and forgets attractive forces. Thus he uses only half of Nature's palette.
Some "artist."
chickenlittle,
I finally "get" Crack. He is like the inside of an enzyme, trying to lower our barrier to change. But he only uses repulsive forces and forgets attractive forces. Thus he uses only half of Nature's palette.
Some "artist."
It's fascinating how - in what you think is an effort to criticize me - you keep lamely pointing out the weaknesses, in yourselves, that I'm exploiting.
It's like you "get" what I'm doing, but you can't intellectually accept it's your own actions I'm riffing on.
Here, you're saying you're brain dead, because that's what the artist is reflecting back at you - your own, dumb, zero-sum outlook.
It's racist, it's stupid, it's offensive, it loses elections, and will probably destroy the political party I love.
Face it:
You're a bunch of silly, but dangerous, conservative reactionaries. You ignorantly follow dog whistles - whether it's Drudge screaming "The Knockout Game", Ted Cruz screaming "Socialism" or me screaming "racist" - you are (as you said) as "predictable" as the sun rising.
And I can work with that. I told you already - but you're too idiotic to get it - you wanna see some sugar?
Quit trying to criticize me for being correct - for actually trying to help you - and show some class yourselves.
Too much to ask, I know,...
Synova,
Goodness, you guys have such a short memory:
You thought no one should vote for Romney.
And not only did he lose - as I said - but his "church" (which you all said was great) came out and admitted, after the election, they were a slobbering group of racists.
No one voted for McCain.
But me - which would've spared us Obama.
The "moderate" Republicans lose... and we're not supposed to side with Ted Cruz.
Nope - you should've had a strategy that thought about our long-term interests - but, instead, you went the reactionary route and lost BIG TIME.
Maybe we should all side with Obama?
When he's right - or does something we can actually exploit - sure. I'm not Rush Limbaugh.
"We should vote for who can win, and vote for Romney."
Crack: "No you shouldn't!"
Because he couldn't win - it was proven he NEVER had a chance and you were delusional to imagine otherwise.
"We should vote on principle even if it's a minority."
Crack: "No you shouldn't!"
Nope - not when your "principle" was a fraud - this is politics and the point is winning.
Well, okay then.
Enjoy the political wilderness,...
BTW - my main point:
it was proven [Romney] NEVER had a chance and you were delusional to imagine otherwise.
That should be the one you ponder - about yourselves - until the next election,...
The problem, Crack, is that you're a wrecker. You say what is wrong wrong wrong, but you never say what is right.
So tell us... who should we vote for? Who should we nominate who can win? Do you know who that is? Who is that, Crack? Who can win?
I voted for McCain, too, but not enough other people did. Republicans have this notion that if only they pick the least offensive guy that they'll win. There's always something wrong with everyone that means that they can't win... Fred has no fire in his belly... Giuliani isn't socially conservative... Romney wears funny undies... on and on. Walker doesn't have a college degree from Harvard, Christie is fat and an a**hole besides,... something wrong with Ryan, something wrong with Cruz, and Rand Paul has funny curly hair.
Name some names. If you're standing on the outside demanding that someone else come up with solutions you like, it's just noise. Name names. Advocate something. Advocate someone.
I agree with you often, you know that I do.
But what will pondering my belly button until the next election do? Will I suddenly see the light and all will become clear and I'll suddenly understand the American population well enough to pick a candidate who can win?
I ponder my belly button and all that becomes clear is the question... why are you demanding I come up with the answer?
Why me and not you?
Synova,
The problem, Crack, is that you're a wrecker. You say what is wrong wrong wrong, but you never say what is right.
How could these guys hear anything without admitting - to themselves - it was they who were wrong, wrong, wrong? They leave me no choice but to batter them because it's all they respect.
I know this, because I tried it the other way, for years.
I didn't walk away from you guys until Romney - which you all knew I couldn't support for reasons that were obvious - he's from a racist cult. To insist I join in that madness (Giving them the presidency?) was madness itself. And so was watching my "friends" betray my anti-cult stance for Romney's suicide mission. I became a cult "bigot", remember?
Who was the "wrecker", then, Syn?
Don't bullshit me, I agree:
You and I have been talking online for years and "Mr. Macho/Misogynist" has always - always - treated you with respect, listened to what you have to say, and been willing to back you up against the idiots.
You've known me long enough to know my real feelings on race (you are still white, aren't you?)
But, still, you let these apocalyptic morons scream "Crack's gone over to the Dark Side" or some nonsense, when - like Freeman Hunt and others (who is still white, isn't she?) - anybody could've personally knocked on my door and gotten a friendly "Whasssssaaaaaap?"
You - all - know this.
But, like the racists they are, Shouting Thomas, Sixty Grit, etc., spun a new narrative for me instead - and you let them. Like all great lies, it mixes in a bit of truth, but the center is hollow.
I'm "the wrecker" now - not y'all, who watched me leave saying "We don't need your vote anyway."
Sure.
Let me show you what "wrecking" is - take the Comment Home's narrative for Al Sharpton:
A "race hustler" who doesn't care about race, lines his own pockets, gets innocent people killed, and lies and cheats every chance he gets, right?
@Haz
Honored! Thank you very, very much.
Freeman Hunt and others (who is still white, isn't she?) - anybody could've personally knocked on my door and gotten a friendly "Whasssssaaaaaap?"
First time I've heard "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are white!"
I want to formerly announce that Palladian and I are collaborating on a new film about cooking called:
"Twelve Years a Savory."
I smell an Oscar.
Revenant,
First time I've heard "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are white!"
Which I never said, so you're delusional - seek help immediately.
Really, the things whites glean from what I say is bizarre. I wonder about their reading comprehension and what meds they're on - since they make up whole narratives about me based on nothing.
They're so bizarre, I wonder why they mention blacks who react to "niggardly" or whatever, when whites were supposed to be the ones with sterling educations and can do no better.
Oh yeah - because they're historically insecure bunny rabbits-with-guns who can't feel good about themselves unless putting others down.
Why would I want to claim such vicious morons as my best friends?
Try again - you'll figure out black folks one day,...
Is Crack claiming that he is talented again?
Yes crack, nobody likes your shitty worthless "rap" because you are black, not because of lack of talent.
Its a conspiracy by Eminem and Macklemore to keep a brother down.
I blame the Beastie Boys.
President-Mom-Jeans said...
Is Crack claiming that he is talented again?
Yes crack, nobody likes your shitty worthless "rap" because you are black, not because of lack of talent.
Speaking of racist narratives:
Why do you guys insist on this? Do you know something I don't? Have I sold some music that failed? If I have, it's news to me.
Were you guys the people John Lennon talked about in Watching The Wheels who criticized him for "no longer playing the game"?
What do you imagine (because that's all it is) happened to my career?
C'mon, President-Mom-Jeans, you know so much:
Tell everybody my story of musical failure,...
I simply refuse to watch anything on A&E anymore. Duck Dynasty or not.
Yes, Crack, you are absolutely like that terribly commercially unsuccessful John Lennon.
The parallel is uncanny.
President-Mom-Jeans said...
Yes, Crack, you are absolutely like that terribly commercially unsuccessful John Lennon.
The parallel is uncanny.
Both decided to stop for personal reasons.
You say different?
I've been on 30 releases - you say different?
I've been called a genius repeatedly, and was once said to be responsible for the San Francisco Sound.
You say different?
And oh yeah, President-Mom-Jeans:
It's easy to throw stones when your punk ass ain't even in the arena.
I'm not out there? I can go back.
You don't exist at all.
And why would you call me a Rapper?
I think you're just talking shit and don't know my career at all,...
No one responds well to getting scolded. Not from any direction.
I really am interested to know who you think are good candidates, Crack.
Because you can clobber people with "the truth" all you like, but if there isn't a carrot with that stick, if there's not leading to go with the prodding, it's just going to be frustrating for you to no purpose.
Even the notion of political cults of personality make me queasy, but I like some better than others.
Who do YOU think has the backbone, the ideological focus, and appeal to a wide voter base that make him or her a truly viable candidate?
Palladian--
Actually, Fonzie and the gang were in California when he jumped the shark.
That's just VERY important.
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