tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post5783627995531851798..comments2024-03-28T00:23:01.632-04:00Comments on Lem's Levity: Shame and shun, distance and denounce.Trooper Yorkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-47559828191715429012017-02-27T19:58:38.260-05:002017-02-27T19:58:38.260-05:00Liar, unrepentant murderer, undeserving identity p...<i>Liar, unrepentant murderer, undeserving identity politics media obsession? No. Thanks. How could anyone trust his reports.</i><br /><br />There it is. No I wouldn't hire him to be a crime reporter. <br /><br /><i>"Two of the most fundamental types of fighting are overt and covert aggression When you are determined to have your way or gain advantage and you're open, direct, and obvious in your manner of fighting, your behavior is best labeled overtly aggressive. When you are out to "win", get your way, dominate, or control, but are subtle, underhanded, or deceptive enough to hide your true intentions, your behavior is most appropriately labeled covertly aggressive. <br />Concealing overt displays of aggression while simultaneously intimidating others into backing-off, backing down, or giving-in is a very powerful manipulative maneuver. That's why covert-aggression is most often the vehicle for interpersonal manipulation."</i> from In Sheep's Clothing, Understanding and Dealing with Manipulative People, by G.Simon Jr. <br /><br />I regard OJ Simpson as a covert aggressor whose fame further emboldened him, which is where the stupid comes in. <br /><br /><i>Certain personalities can be ever so ruthless in their interpersonal conduct while concealing their aggressive character or perhaps even projecting a convincing, superficial charm...they can have their way with you and look good in the process. </i>MamaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300520132972757396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-70462374538818336412017-02-27T16:51:56.279-05:002017-02-27T16:51:56.279-05:00Haha, April. I was going to say ... OJ Crime Rep...Haha, April. I was going to say ... OJ Crime Reporter: Quest for the Real Killers a/k/a Class C Golf Courses of America Tour.<br />No. Thanks.<br />I do not rule out criminals who have paid their debt carrying on as crime reporters or whatever other legal source of revenue they stumble upon once they are back in the world, but OJ? Liar, unrepentant murderer, undeserving identity politics media obsession? No. Thanks. How could anyone trust his reports. It's bad enough watching crime reporting as it is but with OJ commentating it would be like inmates commenting on the asylum. There wouldn't even be a reasonable filter through which to pass the information to render it relevant. Also, I'm not so sure that man is entirely stupid. To me it's clear he was smart enough to not believe his own (his attorneys') BS and had to put up quite an act (he's a crap actor) to convince himself and stay in character during the trial. Again, NO.Amartelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11636450794507517534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-5845007015974066882017-02-27T11:51:47.959-05:002017-02-27T11:51:47.959-05:00Still looking for the real killers.... Still looking for the real killers.... Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-43812022106440145622017-02-27T11:17:07.362-05:002017-02-27T11:17:07.362-05:00OJ's been collecting his substantial NFL pensi...OJ's been collecting his substantial NFL pension while in Prison. He'll have $millions$ when he gets out. Seems your pension can't be attached by creditors. Don't know if that applies to the Goldman judgment against him. rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-89326085391166006942017-02-27T11:14:39.754-05:002017-02-27T11:14:39.754-05:00Ordinarily, I would agree that everyone deserves a...Ordinarily, I would agree that everyone deserves a 2nd Chance. But that assumes you've paid for crime. OJ hasn't paid enough for killing two people yet. IMO, 1st degree murder should get the death penalty or at the very least life without parole.<br /><br />During the OJ trial, Larry king had a panel of commentators including a Jewish Judge from San Diego who kept saying from the very start that the majority black jury would never convict. I thought he was crazy. Short of a photo, there was so much evidence against OJ - it was unbelievable. Motive, Opportunity, the gloves, the shoes, the DNA, the hair in the hat, the shoe size, the blood type, the cuts on his hands, etc. etc. Basically, either the entire LA Police Department was trying to frame him - for no good reason - or he was guilty.rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-83859337321296262302017-02-27T00:57:01.398-05:002017-02-27T00:57:01.398-05:00The Oscars host Jimmy Kimmel got a good zinger aga...The Oscars host Jimmy Kimmel got a good zinger against OJ tonight, something about getting an extra slice of something tonight with his meal. The Hollywood people groaned. <br /><br />News flash: OJ will be released this fall. He will be in our faces, taunting, reminding us that all lives don't matter. chickelithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773887469972534979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-14669444122185873882017-02-26T14:19:03.512-05:002017-02-26T14:19:03.512-05:00Need a crime reporter? Robert Blake needs work.Need a crime reporter? Robert Blake needs work.ampersandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17145013352755061465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-77763176134308600212017-02-26T13:19:52.214-05:002017-02-26T13:19:52.214-05:00Why would a criminal degrade himself by becoming a...Why would a criminal degrade himself by becoming a reporter?Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-36923013080715898792017-02-26T12:58:31.804-05:002017-02-26T12:58:31.804-05:00Exactly, Bagoh. It's insane to forget what he ...Exactly, Bagoh. It's insane to forget what he did to those two families. To those two people. OJ was an out of control jealous psychopath. I'll listen if he admits he did it and apologizes. Until then, he can rot. Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-7488710476108358622017-02-26T12:47:08.612-05:002017-02-26T12:47:08.612-05:00A good crime reporter does not need to be a crimin...A good crime reporter does not need to be a criminal. They need to be a good writer. In fact, of all groups of people, criminals probably have an extremely low probability of being a good crime reporter. The only thing O.J. should be writing is apologies and checks. It was a simple case of a bad man out of control with no compassion or character. Nothing special about him in either skill or insight into crime reporting. Besides, he's a liar. Why would anyone care what he has to say or write? <br /><br />This is not about us as a society. It's about a single cruel, selfish man and his multiple victims serious hurt forever. There is nothing else there. Looking for it <i>would</i> be about us, and our cruelty.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-68864451952447001312017-02-26T12:37:21.197-05:002017-02-26T12:37:21.197-05:00If you have a job available, why not give it to Ro...If you have a job available, why not give it to Ronald Goldman or Nicole Brown, they have a special insight into crime too. Oh, wait ...<br /><br /><i>"If OJ Simpson can write, hire him as a crime reporter."</i><br /><br />If he run a daycare, ...<br />If he can teach anger management, ...<br />If he can be a cop, ...<br /><br />His victims are still dead. If he can bring them back, maybe we can talk, otherwise, hire him as a fireman in hell.<br /><br />bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-89123225041878843252017-02-26T12:25:00.731-05:002017-02-26T12:25:00.731-05:00There are probably some ex-felons who would make f...There are probably some ex-felons who would make fantastic criminal reporters. Not OJ.<br />Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-65452726409950596102017-02-26T12:10:29.668-05:002017-02-26T12:10:29.668-05:00I know Ron Goldmans dad would be all up in arms ab...I know Ron Goldmans dad would be all up in arms about it.<br /><br />He did such a fantastic job advocating for his son I remember his dead son's name but I didn't remember his name until I looked it up.Lem the artificially intelligent https://www.blogger.com/profile/03569712564034666751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-68337833694438029872017-02-26T12:02:05.117-05:002017-02-26T12:02:05.117-05:00Food for thought. Thanks Synova.Food for thought. Thanks Synova.Lem the artificially intelligent https://www.blogger.com/profile/03569712564034666751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-21483745394728444572017-02-26T11:23:02.242-05:002017-02-26T11:23:02.242-05:00The question is too abstract to me. I would ask t...The question is too abstract to me. I would ask the concept of the question another way:<br /><br />What's your thought about Bill Ayers being a professor in the University of Chicago's College of Education?<br /><br />He's retired now, but he also got away with a bit more serious crimes and never showed remorse for the crimes.Lelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09531159384688653131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-61476479481654460592017-02-26T11:07:01.272-05:002017-02-26T11:07:01.272-05:00OJ isn't serving time for murder, he's ser...OJ isn't serving time for murder, he's serving time <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._J._Simpson_robbery_case" rel="nofollow">for robbery.</a> 33 years.<br /><br />I remember hearing something about a sting operation. I hope so. The rat bastard deserves to rot.<br /><br />I'd ask the Goldman and Brown families how they would react to OJ as a crime reporter.<br /><br />Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-73937467593987842542017-02-26T10:51:36.927-05:002017-02-26T10:51:36.927-05:00OJ slit two throats, almost severing their heads.
...OJ slit two throats, almost severing their heads.<br /><br />He should be in jail for life.Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-69928436312158068712017-02-26T10:31:29.833-05:002017-02-26T10:31:29.833-05:00I agree with many of Synova's sentiments. Eve...I agree with many of Synova's sentiments. Everyone deserves a second chance. <br /><br />The crime it determines how the second chance is given and how it is accepted. The severity or mildness of the infraction of the crime makes the difference. The illustration of the Scarlet Letter woman or a mass murderer. A one time breaking of the law or a person who repeatedly breaks the law. Someone who commits a property crime or who has physcially harmed others. There is a big difference. I would have a very hard time not avoiding someone who is a convicted child rapist, adult rapist, cold blooded murderer. <br /> <br />However I also agree with Ed <i>Sooner or later, character counts.</i><br /><br />Given enough time, repentance and showing of character...good or bad we can make a decision on whether to accept or shun.<br /><br />I personally am close to someone who had, in their youth, a criminal record of some substance (not violent crime). However, after serving several years of federal time, that person has 'seen the light' and spent the last 40 years as a model citizen. Most people are not aware of the past transgressions. The past is past. If they were to know? Would it suddenly change their perception of that person that they have known and trusted for the last 4 decades? Would they shun that person for some things that were done 40 years ago despite the 40 years of being a good citizen and repentant? How unfair would that be.<br /><br />I believe one of the points that Synova was making (I think) is that the current rush to judgement, ostracizing, shunning, ruining of a person's life because of some perceived infraction is a "knee jerk" reaction.<br /><br />Not rushing to judgement, however, doesn't mean that we aren't entitled to make judgements or must accept.<br /><br />Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15115422951538885247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-23204146688358082742017-02-26T10:11:27.416-05:002017-02-26T10:11:27.416-05:00OJ has ballooned to over 300lbs in the joint. He h...OJ has ballooned to over 300lbs in the joint. He his addicted to Oreo cookies. More than a bit of irony there. ndspinellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446291993043775612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-35209814877121496852017-02-26T10:08:26.900-05:002017-02-26T10:08:26.900-05:00Thoughtful piece. I watched some of the trial but ...Thoughtful piece. I watched some of the trial but mostly listened to it on my van radio as I did surveillance day in and day out. I know something about trials, having worked on them for 40 years. The first mistake was trying the case in downtown, not in Santa Monica, where the murders occurred. The jury pool in downtown was heavily tilted black. The second mistake was having a weak and easily manipulated Judge Ito handle the case. The third mistake was not having savvy prosecutors who had a deep understanding on DNA evidence. This was over 20 years ago and DNA evidence was fairly nascent at the time. The defense understood DNA much more than the prosecution. All that said, you could correct mistakes 2 and 3 and still lose. There is a deep mistrust of the LA Police and much if it is warranted. The defense hammered that, particularly w/ Fuhrman and an almost all black jury which was inevitable from the downtown jury pool. ndspinellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446291993043775612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-89342820482977401042017-02-26T10:01:23.215-05:002017-02-26T10:01:23.215-05:00Aside from the fact that OJ is guilty as sin he...Aside from the fact that OJ is guilty as sin he's got an IQ of about 80. Other than those two issues he'd make a great crime reporter.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-13027736601433516132017-02-26T09:55:06.329-05:002017-02-26T09:55:06.329-05:00OJ lacks credibility. He's a liar. We don'...OJ lacks credibility. He's a liar. We don't need anymore liars in the media. Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-39007773690605200922017-02-26T06:32:42.369-05:002017-02-26T06:32:42.369-05:00I was on my way to a military reunion in CA with a...I was on my way to a military reunion in CA with a brief layover in Salt Lake City. While in SLC, I watched the white Bronco chase. About the only way I could describe it was -- weird.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-82344702913024715142017-02-26T05:18:13.246-05:002017-02-26T05:18:13.246-05:00Sooner or later, character counts.
If we take a w...Sooner or later, character counts.<br /><br />If we take a worse example than OJ, say Willie Whitewater or the Chap of Quiddick, we quickly find the a liar is a cheat is a thief, etc., all the way to a coward is a bully is a murderer.<br /><br />Eventually, you have to draw the line.<br /><br />And, if we're trying to be better than our ancestors pre-1965, or 1765, keep in mind society worked one whole Hell of a lot better than it does today.<br /><br />Synova said...<br /><br /><i>But still... what do people think you're supposed to do if suddenly confronted by him in public? Spit and shriek? Faint?</i><br /><br />There's always walk away.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033144261502435196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-84557201081687463512017-02-26T00:59:06.059-05:002017-02-26T00:59:06.059-05:00What did he actually get in prison for? I was sho...What did he actually get in prison for? I was shocked that he wasn't convicted of the murders. The whole glove thing seemed so incredibly stupid. I've gotten leather gloves wet, and I don't think fancy expensive ones would take it much better than ones for farm chores.<br /><br />But still... what do people think you're supposed to do if suddenly confronted by him in public? Spit and shriek? Faint? Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.com