tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post5582104514005916916..comments2024-03-28T00:23:01.632-04:00Comments on Lem's Levity: Regarding a place to meditateTrooper Yorkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-62273590867959473472014-01-03T09:16:19.130-05:002014-01-03T09:16:19.130-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-1950206934713447482014-01-02T21:57:28.182-05:002014-01-02T21:57:28.182-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-6382969600887812042014-01-01T16:10:25.773-05:002014-01-01T16:10:25.773-05:00phx, I don't think you came here to scorn anyo...phx, I don't think you came here to scorn anyone's beliefs. I think you had an assumption that libs do more of the yoga-guru sixties type meditation, and that's correct I think. But now the new thing is mindfulness, as I quoted above, which is encouraged for all people in this stressed out world. deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305989647913371151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-25747960811446371172014-01-01T08:15:55.224-05:002014-01-01T08:15:55.224-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-65054389435018719472014-01-01T07:29:38.819-05:002014-01-01T07:29:38.819-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-90715652952150263482013-12-31T22:24:38.750-05:002013-12-31T22:24:38.750-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-27725458685709002442013-12-31T21:29:11.619-05:002013-12-31T21:29:11.619-05:00Yes, I think you mean Eastern mediation for the li...Yes, I think you mean Eastern mediation for the libs, and Christian for the Westerners. It will depend if you assign Christian prayer as meditation. Yes, I'm being difficult :)deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305989647913371151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-80962442604149301242013-12-31T19:14:34.982-05:002013-12-31T19:14:34.982-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-89686860572779320182013-12-31T17:32:32.894-05:002013-12-31T17:32:32.894-05:00Yes, I figured that was the direction phx was comi...Yes, I figured that was the direction phx was coming from, and it's an understandable misconception.deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305989647913371151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-87479170218400002242013-12-31T16:52:45.992-05:002013-12-31T16:52:45.992-05:00I think what phx is getting at is that meditation ...I think what phx is getting at is that meditation is a "liberal thing." You know a crunchy granola prius driving global warming lifestyle that us rock ribbed racist rasscallly republicans want no part of in the real world.<br /><br />But I think many religious traditional conservatives meditate all the time. They might not use all the rituals that the libtards do but they meditate just the same.<br /><br />It is just in church and not at the ashram. Just sayn'Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-1955558932076680262013-12-31T16:42:33.655-05:002013-12-31T16:42:33.655-05:00phx said...
I think it'd be an interesting dis...phx said...<br />I think it'd be an interesting discussion about relationship between political ideology and meditation/religion/prayer. <br /><br /><br />That's a great idea phx.<br /><br />I meditate all the time while I am praying. Sitting in church before Mass is the perfect time to meditate on your failings and sins and try to come up with ways to be a better person. We all fail so much it is important to take stock and try to figure out how you can do better.Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-45156198604988907042013-12-31T14:20:04.068-05:002013-12-31T14:20:04.068-05:00DBQ:
"And a good nap! cocooned in crisp sheet...DBQ:<br />"And a good nap! cocooned in crisp sheets, soft pillows and a fuzzy blanket. Focus your dreams while napping. There is great Zen in a great nap."<br /><br />When hungry eat, when tired sleep :)<br /><br />"Meditation and mindfulness seems to be something not that difficult or esoteric. I don't get it."<br /><br />Your 12:51 is beautiful. When many people speak of mindfulness today, they mean in more of a stop-letting-your-thoughts-think-you context. From Kabat-Zinn's Wherever You Go, There You Are:<br /><br />"Meditation does not involve trying to change your thinking by thinking some more. It involves watching thought itself...By watching your thoughts without being drawn into them, you can learn something profoundly liberating about thinking itself...<br /><br />Another way to view the process of thinking itself as a waterfall, a continual cascading of thought. In cultivating mindfulness, we are going <i>beyond</i> or <i>behind</i> our thinking, much the way you might find a vantage point in a cave or depression in the rock behind a waterfall. We see and hear the water, but we are out of the torrent.<br /><br />Practicing in this way our thought patterns change by themselves...<br /><br /><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnYBXlX2bPwC&q=waterfall#v=snippet&q=waterfall&f=false" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=QnYBXlX2bPwC&q=<br />waterfall#v=snippet&q=waterfall&f=false</a>deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305989647913371151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-68266627849875285392013-12-31T10:33:53.505-05:002013-12-31T10:33:53.505-05:00Chris?Chris?The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354536924604187137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-19717025128443207632013-12-31T09:56:16.444-05:002013-12-31T09:56:16.444-05:00Oops. It's spelled Christie. I must have been ...Oops. It's spelled Christie. I must have been in a trance.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-39363838637389597022013-12-31T09:43:40.890-05:002013-12-31T09:43:40.890-05:00I think liberals do well with meditation because t...I think liberals do well with meditation because the goal is to empty your mind. They start with next to nothing in there, so becoming mindless is but a small step for them.<br /><br />Next step, worship Obama and any other empty suit they are told to worship. Even a pant suit will do. The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354536924604187137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-82848890276334710602013-12-31T09:17:50.044-05:002013-12-31T09:17:50.044-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-60188343395626499952013-12-31T06:31:45.558-05:002013-12-31T06:31:45.558-05:00Meditation is over-rated. I look at pictures of Ch...Meditation is over-rated. I look at pictures of Christy Brinkley and meditate. I have impure thoughts.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-62537259981545350012013-12-31T00:51:42.424-05:002013-12-31T00:51:42.424-05:00Not to be flippant, as in my last comment. To be s...Not to be flippant, as in my last comment. To be serious.<br /><br />Meditation and mindfulness seems to be something not that difficult or esoteric. I don't get it. <br /><br />Maybe it is my surroundings? being in the country? I mean. I can sit on my deck in the afternoons and become aware of the silence, and at the same time the enormous variety of sounds from the life around me, if you only listen, birds, frogs, crickets, wind, water in the river and fields below. Sometimes it is cool winds that chafe. Sometimes warm and balmy that caress. Hot sun that scalds. I can look over the valley below and see the trees and wild rice in the fields moving in the wind: dancing, swaying and bending. Faster, slower. Moving from side to side as the wind blows. See each individual leaf moving and the movement of all of them at the same time as a coordinated yet chaotic whole....OK....acid flashback. [not kidding] <br /><br />In the mornings when I walk out to feed the animals, now, in the 18 degree weather, the crisp sharp air is beautiful. Sometimes painfully, delightfully crisp because I know that a hot cup of coffee is back inside when I'm done. The sky is wonderful and different each morning. The moon is often still showing even while setting and the sun is just peeking up in the East lighting up the sky in gorgeous reds and purples. I can see stars and planets and feel small and expansive all at once. <br /> <br />Is this Zen? Whatever. I love it. Never will I live in a dead overcrowded city again.Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15115422951538885247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-5185121304477239552013-12-31T00:19:49.595-05:002013-12-31T00:19:49.595-05:00Some forms of prayer are meditation
Exactly. As...<i>Some forms of prayer are meditation</i><br /><br />Exactly. As Deborah said. Saying the Rosary is meditation. Repetition of the prayers while feeling the beads of the Rosary or Om Mani Padme Hum to infinity and beyond. Both methods of de-focusing and re-focusing your mind both at the same time. <br /><br />And a good nap! cocooned in crisp sheets, soft pillows and a fuzzy blanket. Focus your dreams while napping. There is great Zen in a great nap. Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15115422951538885247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-82315018652974227332013-12-31T00:18:29.107-05:002013-12-31T00:18:29.107-05:00What do you base that on, phx?
Michael, that'...What do you base that on, phx? <br /><br />Michael, that's fascinating...I'll read it more closely tomorrow.<br /><br />'Night all.deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305989647913371151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-3203204268479982752013-12-31T00:08:41.220-05:002013-12-31T00:08:41.220-05:00Meditation may be an anti- inflammatory according ...Meditation may be an anti- inflammatory <a href="http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-12-meditation-gene.html" rel="nofollow">according to researchers.</a>Michael Hazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261384414481528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-41859858964344746222013-12-31T00:06:22.948-05:002013-12-31T00:06:22.948-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-42955812846354881972013-12-30T23:36:09.328-05:002013-12-30T23:36:09.328-05:00Catholics are big on meditation, esp priests, monk...Catholics are big on meditation, esp priests, monks, nuns, the old desert fathers. Praying the Rosary is meditation, because as you repeat the prayers, your mind is freed up to dwell upon the Mysteries, such as the Resurrection, Anunciation, etc, depending on the season of the year.<br /><br />There's a good Protestant book I started once that talks of meditation in one of the early chapters...Celebration of Discipline by Richard J. Foster. Quite well done.deborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305989647913371151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-43620929377534696512013-12-30T23:23:45.483-05:002013-12-30T23:23:45.483-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-5934662683695493142013-12-30T23:16:14.824-05:002013-12-30T23:16:14.824-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.com