tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post3614661836789747949..comments2024-03-28T00:23:01.632-04:00Comments on Lem's Levity: Tolerance?Trooper Yorkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-44875976897328649522015-09-21T23:21:59.358-04:002015-09-21T23:21:59.358-04:00Once when all units globally had a mandated requir...Once when all units globally had a mandated requirement, from headquarters, to account for all equipment world wide within 30 days. That included dozens of "disappeared" items in several countries...e.g. stolen and black marketed, whihc had to be tracked down. My calculations was that it would take us, our unit 6 months+ to accomplish the task and advised my commander of that fact...I even offered to fib about it (since it didn't seem life threatening) and report all was in order by day 30...and that commander said don't you dare, his job was to take the flack, so tell the truth, which we got since some 90% or so of other units did report compliance in 30 days. Once their deceptions were discovered by inspection and audit...both my commander and I got hand written personal notes of thank you for telling the truth (and in effect revealing the other's lies) from the same commanding general who at first tore us up personally. We went form the worst dumbest least efficient incapable pair to the best in relatively short order. Always follow your gut instinct and be honest even when it seems likely to cause distress higher up. Now and then it will be recognized. That resolute commander earned my full respect when he ordered me to just be honest...he was one of the few Colonels among my recent commanders who I'd follow in to harms way if necessary. Aridoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18345930150667529742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-64173459197191855802015-09-21T23:04:59.655-04:002015-09-21T23:04:59.655-04:00Snyova ... when you take the risk of challenging ...<b>Snyova</b> ... when you take the risk of challenging a unlawful order (such as to break the law per se...or even violate someone's civil rights) <i>you must act very fast</i> to cut off any charges by establishing your facts and cause for disobedience up front (never presume anything)...which discourages further official actions. Don't wait for them to gather facts, do it for them and shove it down their throats...and never expect justice will prevail if you just sit tight. It won't in federal government including DOD/DA. I've been there, done that. You learn to dance on the edge of a razor at times, so be sure you have it right and the law on your side. You'll make enemies of some of the bureaucrats...but that is the price of integrity if you're in government or the military, and in my case I was in both. I cleared, or at least gave advance notice, to my commander, usually a Colonel, every time so he/she didn't have to rely on external 3rd or 4th party representations of malfeasance. That simple gesture within my chain of command gave me credibility. Aridoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18345930150667529742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-61298690358288069532015-09-21T22:47:02.398-04:002015-09-21T22:47:02.398-04:00That's sort of... following illegal orders doe...That's sort of... following illegal orders doesn't excuse anyone when it comes time for trial.<br /><br />This was bad policy in all ways... tolerating evil because it's part of the "culture" while saying that you're saving people from the evil Taliban... well, hey, that worked splendidly, right?<br /><br />But our guys, if someone decided to blame them for allowing atrocities, would have no recourse called "we were following orders." They'd be convicted and housed next to Chelsea.<br /><br />Normally stuff like this would go non-judicial... ie., show up and beat the shit out of the rapists and maybe brand the suckers, and then everyone, certainly all the *brass* gets a severe case of amnesia. Because you can't lead troops like this. You can't ask them to allow or condone that sort of thing and keep order.Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-48041981065893662292015-09-21T21:30:20.972-04:002015-09-21T21:30:20.972-04:00What Allen S said...not the Army I recall either. ...What <b>Allen S</b> said...not the Army I recall either. <br /><br />However, one old unofficial "rule", *so I've heard*, was when you saw something like this, or worse, you just killed the perpetrator...<i>and</i> any witnesses you didn't know. <br /><br />Lt Col Allen West (formerly R-FL) was effectively sacked for a lessor offense to presumed military order...he fired his pistol beside the head of a jihadi during interrogation. Didn't even beat the sucker with it...but his soldiers did beat the snot out of the guy before West acted. West was acting to gain information and protect his men. Why that is an issue in today's military is beyond me. Sticking someone in a cage and burning or drowning them is one thing...oh, wait, it's the other guys who do that. Aridoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18345930150667529742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-30281437867643198692015-09-21T21:25:23.740-04:002015-09-21T21:25:23.740-04:00Bags, I don't think Debbie was a rapist. She w...Bags, I don't think Debbie was a rapist. She was a siren and a seductress. chickelithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773887469972534979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-86955906608363537812015-09-21T21:15:49.501-04:002015-09-21T21:15:49.501-04:00OK, I have to say it.
Ritmo's comment (I thin...OK, I have to say it.<br /><br />Ritmo's comment (I think including Dubya was off) is a good one.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033144261502435196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-73171593512495950172015-09-21T21:01:24.952-04:002015-09-21T21:01:24.952-04:00Bill Maher is good on the scourges that flourish u...Bill Maher is good on the scourges that flourish under an Islamic system. But so are Wafe Sultan, Mosab Hassan Youssef, and a few others that I'm sure everyone has heard of: Brigitte Gabriel, Ali Ayaan Hirsi, Irshad Manji. I think the first two are really important though because of how steeped they remain in Muslim/Arab culture and how entrancing their manifestoes have been. They are good authors and brave speakers and viable potential reformers who don't come across anywhere near as inherently Western as the others. Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Togetherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059991118123693141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-87728351026103541492015-09-21T20:52:41.301-04:002015-09-21T20:52:41.301-04:00You're right to take offense but the thing is ...You're right to take offense but the thing is I'm almost certain it was a decision way up in the hierarchy (regardless of whether Obama or Bush knew) and one that was made on the sound basis of wanting to avoid sowing chaos among the population. But it was the wrong decision. India is better off because Britain imposed certain values on it, and I'm sure there are many other examples. We should have done the same here. The calculation was wrong unless you really think more violence and an impossible challenge to the mission would have resulted. But I think to have concluded that was just bunk and a weak, cowardly order was made as a result. Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Togetherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059991118123693141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-88761311148504317142015-09-21T20:37:13.754-04:002015-09-21T20:37:13.754-04:00Sorry, why are we over there again? This Afgan war...Sorry, why are we over there again? This Afgan war has gone on longer then the Soviet occupation. <br /><br />Maybe if weren't over there all the time, these problems wouldn't affect us over here.<br /><br />Boring I know.rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-16850046032749902382015-09-21T20:06:15.339-04:002015-09-21T20:06:15.339-04:00but if you are accused of Rape on any American col...but if you are accused of Rape on any American college campus - Jared Polis(D) assumes you are guilty until proven innoce... nah - You're guilty.<br /><br />College! Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-23121761028804176792015-09-21T19:50:41.855-04:002015-09-21T19:50:41.855-04:00The want to define deviancy down. Not just in sexu...The want to define deviancy down. Not just in sexuality or morality.<br /><br />The biggest controversy extant this past year was an attempt to embolden criminals to resist the police when they are committing crimes. The case of a drug addled thug who tried to attack a cop and steal his gun has become a cause celebre supported by politicians, news media people and the President of the United States. <br /><br />Defining deviancy down. Nothing is too low for them.Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-85378041955585584612015-09-21T19:34:05.173-04:002015-09-21T19:34:05.173-04:00"...people who think it's more important ..."...people who think it's more important to placate these animals than the fact that he is raping children."<br /><br />Placate is an interesting word. But I think it's worse than that. The Left, creatures like Obama and his minions, have one goal in mind at all times -- to humiliate traditionalists, those Obama calls bitter clingers. And you do that by always sticking your finger in the traditionalist eye. Placating the Muslims in their horrible widespread practice of raping boys is an excuse, the point is to humiliate the Christian culture, those who adhere to Christian morality. The final goal is demoralization of the enemy, the White Christian West. <br /><br />And by the way you don't have to be an Alinskyite to understand how to break another's spirit. It's very old knowledge. Constant unrelenting humiliation, the constant finger in the eye. That has been Obama's quite deliberate practice since day one.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-75224223529786961922015-09-21T18:45:01.082-04:002015-09-21T18:45:01.082-04:00I'm willing to say that not all rape is bad.
...I'm willing to say that not all rape is bad.<br /><br />If <a href="https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwtSzJSKmmNjAx1nHsph9SVrn78xBvWDurhb1_rD_tGv0wSK9L" rel="nofollow">THIS</a> rapist tied me to a bed, and you came in and saved me, I would kick your ass.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-35024746109327657752015-09-21T18:22:30.842-04:002015-09-21T18:22:30.842-04:00... of course raping children, burning people aliv...... of course raping children, burning people alive in cages, and head-severing is nothing, circa now, compared to the Crusades.<br /><br />Our president told me. Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-40343622022813842252015-09-21T18:18:06.586-04:002015-09-21T18:18:06.586-04:00Korect spelingz iz for loozers. Korect spelingz iz for loozers. Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-48310260587520062772015-09-21T18:16:19.885-04:002015-09-21T18:16:19.885-04:00ack - I posted that before I saw your post. Anothe...ack - I posted that before I saw your post. Another heartless betrayal on my part. As long as you know I adore you no matter what... Just keep that in your heart! Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-61395982843238233262015-09-21T18:15:52.285-04:002015-09-21T18:15:52.285-04:00The article states there were rapes of girls too.The article states there were rapes of girls too.Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06593014816206957874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-49704075264905746192015-09-21T18:13:37.662-04:002015-09-21T18:13:37.662-04:00That's true, Bags. However, Maher is brutally ...That's true, Bags. However, Maher is brutally honest in his reminders to the spineless on-air talent at MSNBC how there is only ONE religion running around chopping off heads and burning people alive in cages.Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-34306125648174006352015-09-21T18:12:41.993-04:002015-09-21T18:12:41.993-04:00April, I trusted you. You led me down a spelling ...April, I trusted you. You led me down a spelling trail of embarrassment and ridicule. bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-49750162527004526542015-09-21T18:11:08.719-04:002015-09-21T18:11:08.719-04:00Bill Maher. Bill Maher. Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-3189179600396176442015-09-21T18:11:01.864-04:002015-09-21T18:11:01.864-04:00Mahr justs hates all religious people, so he's...Mahr justs hates all religious people, so he's not really breaking form.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-57811900207645337552015-09-21T18:06:48.001-04:002015-09-21T18:06:48.001-04:00I just heard some great clips of Bill Mahr (on han...I just heard some great clips of Bill Mahr (on hannity radio) reminding all the moral degenerates on MSNBC that Islamic radicals kill other Muslims in horrific ways.<br /><br />All while the usual left winger on-air talent wring there hands over clock boy.<br /><br />The GOP candidates should let Bill Mahr answer all Islamic questions. On that subject, the dude is 100% correct. <br />Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-10234405529669360962015-09-21T18:03:46.091-04:002015-09-21T18:03:46.091-04:00Scott Walker would make a fantastic Prez. What a b...Scott Walker would make a fantastic Prez. What a bummer.Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-11987688371070364742015-09-21T18:01:33.710-04:002015-09-21T18:01:33.710-04:00I think the generals who cashiered this captain sh...I think the generals who cashiered this captain should be separated from the service. Reinstate him and drop the prosecution against the Sergeant who helped him. That's the right thing to do.Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-57270955080351142572015-09-21T17:59:58.327-04:002015-09-21T17:59:58.327-04:00If we let stuff like this go we will have a situat...If we let stuff like this go we will have a situation like they have in England where thousands of children are victimized.<br /><br />Maybe that is the next frontier of the politically correct elite. Maybe they are getting ready to sanction pedophile marriage. It is not that big a step. You can see it coming a mile away.<br /><br />I mean look at all the teachers that molest students. It is almost as common as paying union dues.Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.com