tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post7318127902879413833..comments2024-03-28T00:23:01.632-04:00Comments on Lem's Levity: The Establishment has been heard from...they think nothing has changed.Trooper Yorkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-78584415364629531752016-10-27T05:51:54.460-04:002016-10-27T05:51:54.460-04:00There is no wall, bag.There is no wall, bag.The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354536924604187137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-39826144404349405242016-10-26T21:41:25.533-04:002016-10-26T21:41:25.533-04:00I don't agree with his five points. I just se...I don't agree with his five points. I just see one: people wanted change, and he was the most changy, period. All the rest is just variations on that theme. The more atypical he acted - the more Trumpers loved it.<br /><br />Chip, I think you are like most Trumpers who assign qualities and motives to Trump out of desire for them rather than evidence they exist there. I don't really dismiss that, as I also hope he is more than I see, and that he will somehow manifest those things, but he has been a disappointment for me so far - not the cunning, focussed fighter I'd hoped for. But when in office I fantasize he will become like the old saying: "Some have greatness thrust upon them". <br /><br />On this whole topic of next time: Who predicted Trump would be the nominee four years ago? Find that guy and ask him what's gonna happen. Everybody else is throwing shit on the wall, including me when I prognosticate, although mine don't stink.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-79155948571899948322016-10-26T21:18:26.155-04:002016-10-26T21:18:26.155-04:00Chip, I definitely agree with your number 11. Als...Chip, I definitely agree with your number 11. Also 8, 9 and 12. I wish 10 was more true, but I'm not seeing it even from Trump. Although I'll admit that me not seeing it is because I'm not looking for it and the media sure isn't covering it.Lelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09531159384688653131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-3544372327312432282016-10-26T20:33:19.350-04:002016-10-26T20:33:19.350-04:00I do not t agree those are the 5 defining characte...I do not t agree those are the 5 defining characteristics. I define what I see slightly differently.<br /><br />1) unbridled earned egoism about his rightful success in the real world governed by corrupt politics.<br /><br />2) unrestrained returned attacks<br /><br />3) strong stance against illegal immigration and implementation wide open unprotected borders and invitation by such policies accomplished fait accompli against the wishes of the electorate<br /><br />4) intense skepticism about unfair trade where our markets are opened but our partners are not and foreign countries manipulate their currencies<br /><br />5) skepticism regarding armed intervention<br /><br />6) insistence on representative government, not its reverse.<br /><br />8) hatred of corrupted parties and corrupted obviously partisan network media<br /><br />9) acknowledgment of rigged system<br /><br />10) dismantling disastrous Obamacaare. <br /><br />11) Affection for his country, its laws, its values, its institutions that allowed him to flourish.<br /><br />12) Skepticism of immigration from part of the world where its citizens do not share our values, our laws, our institutions. <br /><br />Chip Ahoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597726289890879627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-23499516282238992662016-10-26T20:29:23.337-04:002016-10-26T20:29:23.337-04:00I would say the movement towards Trump begins with...I would say the movement towards Trump begins with the Porkbusters and later the TEA Party. The common theme of both was fiscal conservatism. Some think that means free trade, but that's an ideal. These people didn't want ideal, they just wanted movement towards a smaller government, or if that's impossible, at least halting the growth. Bush didn't halt the growth, and it began to snowball in his 2nd term with a GOP Congress.<br /><br />I know many people that didn't vote in 2006 out of disgust with the GOP. The idea then was losing Congress was better than losing the Presidency. And Hillary would run, and likely win the primary, in 2008; and she would be the weak candidate then as she is now. Instead, she was too weak and didn't win the primary. And the GOP establishment went for the seniority play thus giving us the weakest GOP candidate in 30 years. So people that sat out 2006, gave lukewarm support in 2008; came out in droves in 2010 to win back Congress. The enthusiasm continued right up to Romney's 2nd debate, when he utterly failed to respond to Candy Crowley neither in the debate nor afterwards. 2014 support came from a lack of any other option and some hope that enlarging GOP gains in Congress might help. Instead, the GOP Congress just became weaker. <br /><br />It's amazing how much weaker they are acting. They always fought hard as a minority, but damn if they don't roll over for a tummy rub when they get near a 2/3rd majority. That behavior is as unsustainable as it is undeniable. Thus Trooper's number 2. Yeah, it won't continue, but it needs to. <br /><br />3/4/5 simply don't matter so long as the GOP as a majority folds their strong hand. All we have, and its at the State level; are better laws on abortion, which allow for it up to 20 weeks and then limits afterwards. I support those laws, but that's no GOP type position that existed prior to 2010. Is there any other GOP plank that has progressed under a GOP majority in Congress? One? I don't count investigations that have not resulted in one person going to jail or one policy being reversed.Lelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09531159384688653131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-717986195212622043.post-55235262196895948772016-10-26T19:47:22.681-04:002016-10-26T19:47:22.681-04:00PowerLine has been stridently anti-Trump since the...PowerLine has been stridently anti-Trump since the Convention and, most of the time, it's pretty clear they can't wait for Trump to lose.<br /><br />That said, most of "Trumpism" existed before he became a candidate and will exist win, loser, drawbridge. They don't see this. They don't see how the appeal of Sarah Palin morphed into Trump's appeal.<br /><br />They also go out of their way to ignore how Junior McCain was far more willing to be a gracious loser than Romney ever was.<br /><br />Thing is, the Whigs would hide behind the consent decree not to contest the election. Trump would not be so encumbered any more than Dubya was.<br /><br />Certainly more so.<br /><br />PS Good piece, Troop.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033144261502435196noreply@blogger.com