Wednesday, May 2, 2018

Trump is a stepfather who is going to rape us.

I've seen this discussed on a few places. A woman named Virginia Heffernan who writes for a place called Wired wrote this tweet that fairly well summarizes how right wing writers characterize liberal psychology. It's somewhat surprising seeing the damaged psychology admitted this freely. She writes as a child.
Do. Tell us more of your daddy issues and how that relates to high government office. If this is the starting point of our discussion, then we have no reasonable sensible discussion to make together on anything about government. 



18 comments:

edutcher said...

If you want a reason why giving women the vote was a really bad idea, that's it.

It speaks volumes for the lack of intellect and stability that Lefty women vote for a man if they want a daddy or they want to screw him.

Sometimes both.

(scratch any feminist and you'll find Daddy's Little Girl)

Amartel said...

Save us, Obama-won, you're our only hope!

These people are little girls and they have daddy issues and they're too ugly to become stripppers.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Whats the difference? Democrats rape us every day. Gotta pay the bureaucratic flunky.

deborah said...

Daddy issues, schmaddy schmissues. I myself said here that Trump was probably the last Dad president, and I meant it fondly.

As for (devouring) mother issues, remember that terrible, sinking, dread-filled morning you woke up and assumed it likely Hillary would be elected that day, and we'd have to listen to her smug mug the next four years?

deborah said...

Oh, snap.

MamaM said...

I don't see Trump as a Dad president. While he may or may not be a good father to his children, I view him as a dedicated business man, more like a Captain of a ship, solitary and eccentric, but effective in what he does.

In my experience, woman who've been raped by a father or stepfather, tend not to be flip when talking about it.

I'm wondering if she's using someone else's trauma or story (perhaps read about but not her own) to project onto another, which is two forms of dirty.

Amartel said...

Agree with MamaM and don't see Trump as a Dad president. To me, this is the beauty of Trump, that you don't have to like him. I do, but I'm not compelled to do so. Everyone was compelled to like Obama, even if you didn't, which I didn't. There was constant hints coming at you from all sides that you ought to like him. What a guy! Look at him smiling away, with perfect trouser crease and articulation and humorous comedy jokes! And the singing and other entertainment value! The very picture of a modern American President. It was all so needy it was nauseating and it was people like this disaster who sees Trump as a rapey step-father who worshipped Obama.

Just my opinion and not a comment on casual observation of Trump as Dad President which I assume is a corollary to viewing Obama as Mom President, with his Mom jeans and constant stereotypically mom-ish nagging and scolding and time-outs and list-making and preoccupation with celebrity gossip and general shittiness at sports. Not to be stereotypical or anything and no, my mom was nothing like any of that, other than the obsessive listmaking. Alternatively, Trump as Dad President as corollary to Hillary as the devouring mother would-be president who's always getting into the sherry and fainting to get out of attending functions. Or maybe Hillary as the ultimate evil mother-in-law (no choice but to be nice to her face)!

Amartel said...

Also, Trump has natural entertainment value. The media doesn't have to point it out.

deborah said...

Am, the dad reference was nothing to do with Obama, but just his general demeanor and delivery. Best example, for me:

https://youtu.be/2zoMpe-5ris?t=130

deborah said...

As for the devouring mother, I've been looking into archetypes lately, and maybe I should have used Tyrant or Trickster for Hillary. Re the quote below, a woman can be the victim of the devouring mother in a different way.

"If this situation is dramatized, as the unconscious usually dramatizes it, then there appears before you on the psychological stage a man living regressively, seeking his childhood and his mother, fleeing from a cold cruel world which denies him understanding. Often a mother appears beside him who apparently shows not the slightest concern that her little son should become a man, but who, with tireless and self-immolating effort, neglects nothing that might hinder him from growing up and marrying. You behold the secret conspiracy between mother and son, and how each helps the other to betray life.

Where does the guilt lie? With the mother, or with the son? Probably with both. The unsatisfied longing of the son for life and the world ought to be taken seriously. There is in him a desire to touch reality, to embrace the earth and fructify the field of the world. But he makes no more than a series of fitful starts, for his initiative as well as his staying power are crippled by the secret memory that the world and happiness may be had as a gift—from the mother. The fragment of world which he, like every man, must encounter again and again is never quite the right one, since it does not fall into his lap, does not meet him half way, but remains resistant, has to be conquered, and submits only to force. It makes demands on the masculinity of a man, on his ardour, above all on his courage and resolution when it comes to throwing his whole being into the scales. For this he would need a faithless Eros, one capable of forgetting his mother and undergoing the pain of relinquishing the first love of his life. The mother, foreseeing this danger, has carefully inculcated into him the virtues of faithfulness, devotion, loyalty, so as to protect him from the moral disruption which is the risk of every life adventure. He has learnt these lessons only too well, and remains true to his mother. This naturally causes her the deepest anxiety (when, to her greater glory, he turns out to be a homosexual, for example) and at the same time affords her an unconscious satisfaction that is positively mythological. For, in the relationship now reigning between them, there is consummated the immemorial and most sacred archetype of the marriage of mother and son.

deborah said...

devouring mother

deborah said...

"000233 Psychological aspects of the mother archetype. 3. The mother-complex. 11. The mother-complex of the daughter. c. Identity with the mother. d. Resistance to the mother. In: Jung, C., Collected Works of C. G. Jung, Vol. 9, Part 1. 2nd ed., Princeton University Press, 1968. 431 p. (p. 89-91).

Two alternatives to the overdevelopment of the Eros in the mother complex of a woman are described as identity with the mother and resistance to the mother. In the former case, the daughter projects her personality completely on the mother, loses her own feminine instincts due to feelings of inferiority, and remains devoted to the mother in an unconscious desire to control her. It is noted that the submissive vacuousness these daughters display is often very attractive to men. The resistance to the mother is described as an example of the negative mother complex, in which behavior patterns of the daughter are formed exclusively in opposition to those of the mother’ This complex is seen to result in marital difficulties, indifference to family based societal organizations, and sometimes an extreme intellectual development."

in females

Chip Ahoy said...

Milo Yiannopoulos amusingly referred to Trump as daddy. And Milo is capable of reasonably discussing American politics and law and history and parties. But he's also a psychological mess and he shows that openly and gleefully, dressing in drag, purposefully driving people nuts, basically behaving as Democrat, admitting Daddy issues, bring that into politics, and worse than all that, disqualifying actually, he's British and he pronounces America, "Americer."

ding.

Out! Out! Out! Out! Out!

I enjoyed Milo. As entertainment. But he was using our election for his own aggrandizement. He was riding the Trump wave and attracting a type of following. A sort of Kanye West for his tribe. For some reason his "I was sexually abused as a child but I liked it" didn't go over well at all. Odd, given all that preceded it.

Amartel said...

Um, different kind of daddy I think, given the source.
Didn't mind Milo. Very smart, witty. Accent doesn't bother me. Waiting to see if Kanye can handle the heat or if he will default back to original programming.
It could go either way.
The problem with stereotypes is that they are only the conventional wisdom's general rule so they never apply when it gets down to individual realities.

Amartel said...

If you see Trump as Dad Prez just remember that there are offputting Dad stereotypes as well. Best not to get personally invested.

deborah said...

Thanks, Dad :)

MamaM said...

To complete the Trifecta, it was in truth, Bill Clinton with his intrusive cigar who entered into the role of unsafe rapey step-father with a young woman in his "house" while Hillary who was intimately familiar with the ins and outs of her husband's inappropriate, irresponsible and sexually abusive behavior toward women, stood by him.

Amartel said...

The first enabler.
Well, maybe not the first. She did have a personal hero she wouldn't shut up about.