Monday, June 20, 2016

Here's something to make all the #Nevertrumper's here come in their pants.

19-year-old man tried to kill Trump at Las Vegas rally, officials say

32 comments:

rcocean said...

Scott Adams said it in jest, but its true. Once you get all the MSM and Establishment chanting that "Trump is just like Hitler" - every unstable left-wing nut will be drawn into violence.

Because who wouldn't want to kill Hitler.

rcocean said...

Look at the history of political violence:

JFK - Killed by a Commie upset over Cuba
RFK - Killed by a Left-winger upset over Palestine
Wallace - shot by a left-wing nut
Reagan - shot by a left-wing nut
Ford - saved by fluke. A left-wing nut wanted to shoot him for "making war on the left".

Trooper York said...

I hope Trump has his own security. I would not put my life in the hands of the Secret Service.
Not with their recent history. Plus the fact that they are most likely riddled with affirmative action hires. It is a recipe for disaster.

Trump needs to have his own security around him at all times.

Sixty Grit said...

If Squeaky had received proper semi-automatic handgun training we would have had President Rockefeller, who had never run for a single nationwide audience.

What I remember about that attempt was just how close she was able to get to Jerry.

Sixty Grit said...

Sorry, I should have said "never been elected to" a national office. Good ol' Rocky - what a way to go.

AprilApple said...

I'm no Trump fan but I certainly don't want him hurt in any way. That's outrageous.

Now If Hillary were to die for any reason at all, I'd be cool with it. Sorry - evil needs to be 6 feet under.

bagoh20 said...

Just how many #nevertrumers do you imagine are in here? And then how many of those do you think want him killed? I tried to calculate that myself, but #div/0!

edutcher said...

Stuff like that is all over Twitter any time he has a rally.

I guess it will be AG Giuliani's job to sort it out.

bag, here' we have a mix. How many want him dead?

Well....

AprilApple said...

Assuming we want him dead is all part of your delusion. I'd say the delusion factor is complete. Congrats.

Trooper York said...

Don't jump to the conclusion that I was referring to you unless you have a guilty conscience. There are many who would be very happy if something happened to Trump. Bill Kristol and George Will to name just two.

Trooper York said...

On the other hand people don't go ouch unless something stings.

edutcher said...

AprilApple said...

Assuming we want him dead is all part of your delusion. I'd say the delusion factor is complete. Congrats.

I assumed nothing.

I said nothing.

You did all the assuming (you know what happens when you assume...)

You're your own Rohrschacht Test.

chickelit said...

There aren't any nevertrumpers here that I'm aware of. There is one commenter who frequents here who recently bought the Trump+Hitler meme, but don't think he was invited to any Kreisau Circle Jerks.

If you want to see read nevertrumpers, go over to TOP or follow a few of her old commenters on Twitter.

And yes, this is the logical end game for Trump=Hitler folks.

bagoh20 said...

I'm not a #nevertrumper.
I don't want him dead.
I don't get off on murder.
I'm not wearing pants.

0 for 4.

Hey what about that bigfoot? I hear he's dating the chupacabra.

chickelit said...

I don't get off on murder.

It's not that they "get off" on it; it's that feel morally obliged to allow it.

Sixty Grit said...

CL, I am an always-stumper - as in, if I see a tree, I hug it, determine which way it leans, then fell it.

I did that a year and a half ago to a white pine. Made some things. The sap will not set. The usual woodworking sites suggest heat treatment, but as the piece is now in its third week in a 250 degree oven, I thought to ask the resident chemist about the possibility of using a chemical process to cause the sap to harden.

One encounters several problems when researching this issue - is it sap, rosin, phloem, xylem, or what?

In any case, my reading led me to http://www.jbc.org/content/140/2/563.full.pdf, which discusses the chemical make up of Pinus strobus, which I am not 100% certain this wood is, but it is close enough for our purposes, which is how do we get the sap to set. Any suggestions you can make regarding any chemical I can apply to the piece or immerse it in would be much appreciated.

And remember, barium is what we do to others.

chickelit said...

Extracts from the soft wood of Pinus Strobus? Isn't there a pill to help that?

As for the article, I'll have a butcher's.

PS: Remember why they use barium: gravitas.

Sixty Grit said...

Sandshoe.

XRay said...

That was a bad post title, Troop. For a multitude of reasons. The least being you think anyone here might think that way. Pretty low.

20/30 years in a outdoor shaded rack, cure it right up.

Methadras said...

This is what happens when you become an RMPC democrat. It turns you into a fucking lunatic that wants to do lunatic things.

edutcher said...
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edutcher said...

Well, this should ruin April's week. Looks like Hillary's post primary bump is done.

Swing states are back to neck-and-neck.

PS The author, Mike Flynn, is a Cruz delegate.

chickelit said...

It's still too early for meaningful polls.

I'm more interested in recent converts and Damascene moments.

chickelit said...

Now it's time to look at Sixty's article. BBL

edutcher said...

I agree, chick, but we've been inundated with such a cacophony of screeching about Cacklepants' manufactured lead, I thought a dose of Valium, if not Haldol, might not be the thing to bring us relative quiet.

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Chick's right, polls are chatter right now.

Trump needs to get his groove back (looks like he is trying). Hillary never had it. She was slightly ahead given her nomination confirmation bump. Orlando did not help her.

chickelit said...

@Sixty: The article you sent describes the identification of wood products unrelated to your problem, however, their treatment is instructive and suggestive.

In a first step after cutting, they mentioned "drying" -- the very step you've been unsuccessful at. Presumably, drying removed residual water and volatile organic compounds. This may be only from the surface or from an unknown depth of the wood. But the authors went a step further, pulverizing the wood to get at what's inside. Then they extracted with hot acetone, ethanol, and water. The bit about testing with iodine meas they had removes all free sugar units. They never really analyze what they pull out (extracted) up until this point because what they're really after is the residual wood left behind. They've already gone beyond what you need to do.

It seems to me that you have run into a batch of wood which keeps "leaking" residual sap. How to get rid of it? First, sap runs deep. What you have removed in your 250 degree oven is only what comes to the surface. You need to coax it to the surface from inside (leaving the bulk of the structure intact). You need to bathe the wood in chemicals which mimic its cozy environs inside the wood, allowing the sap to come out. Not knowing the chemical nature of the sap, I suggest bathing the wood in exactly what the authors used: acetone, ethanol, and hot water followed by a drying step to remove the sap residue. You may find that one or more baths may not be necessary. Alternatively, you could combine the extractions using a gemish of acetone/ethanol/water. Of course you should avoid anything which you know will damage your wood (I'm remembering a conversation we had about water wrecking/staining oak). After a bath of an unspecified time, then try drying the wood as per usual.

chickelit said...

Prolonged contact of ethanol/water solutions with wood is an old, well established art: It's what behind getting the color and flavors in aged rum, whiskey, brandies, tequila, and other distilled spirits. I presume you don't have 21 years to age your wood like a fine Macallan scotch. Keep in mind that they do their barrel wood extractions at room temperature. All chemical reaction go faster at higher temperatures.

chickelit said...

If ethanol is too expensive -- I'm imagining you immersing planks -- you could use methanol (wood alcohol) or any "cheap" solvent. I would try how water first, followed by whatever organic solvent you could afford next -- gallons of hooch unseen by revenuers.

Sixty Grit said...

Thanks, CL - and quiet about the white lightning, okay?

But seriously, I did get the sense that alcohol or acetone might be the next things to try. I was looking for some chemical to react with the sap and solidify it.

I will run some tests on areas that won't show and let you know what I find.

Okay, I just read on another site that mineral oil might help - mineral spirit, mineral oil, distilled spirits, acetone - let the party begin!

Thanks for your help. Should this piece survive it will be stunning.

edutcher said...

Evi L. Bloggerlady said...

Chick's right, polls are chatter right now.

Trump needs to get his groove back (looks like he is trying). Hillary never had it. She was slightly ahead given her nomination confirmation bump. Orlando did not help her.


I think it ends up hurting her. She seems to be on the wrong side on every issue surrounding it.

chickelit said...

@Sixty: Another thought I had overnight: steam.

Steam treatment might work better than anything because steam is a non polar solvent much like an organic solvent. Steam distillation is an old chemist's trick for purifying mixtures. I'm imagining you setting up a piece of wood over a boiling vat, letting the steam condense on the wood and drip back, pulling out any resins. You might see a little chemical reaction going on, especially if air is present. Also, you will only generate vat of wastewater containing wood extracts. Afterwards, you could safely dry and burn that resin (or use it) instead of having to dispose of gallons of organic solvent.