Thursday, March 10, 2016

Florida GOP Debate

From God's waiting room.... one more time... are you watching?

Sink or Swim in Florida
"4th time is a charm"

55 comments:

edutcher said...

All the others, of course, will go after The Donald .

Rubio and Kasich will have to find a reason to justify their staying in after Tuesday.

Looks like the One True Ted will have to do his own hatchet work after tonight.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Not so fast Ed...

Carl Cameron: "Rubio has said if he doesn't win his home state he's staying in." @greta

edutcher said...

Depends on whom you read.

His donors were saying differently. Of course, that was yesterday.

One reason he may have decided to dig in his heels is to spite the Cruz campaign after the dirty trick they played on him in HI.

YMMV

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Less fireworks tonight.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Did you know that Trump is losing to Hillary in 42 of 49 polls.

I know - Real Clear politics usually gets it right with their averages, but they must be wrong this time.

edutcher said...

Did you know it's 8 months until November?

ricpic said...

"Islam hates us." Once again Donald speaks a bedrock truth.

In comparison Cruz, Rubio and Kasich are pygmies WHO WON'T DEFEND US and THE PEOPLE KNOW IT.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

It was a guilty pleasure to hear Donald say "We are going to keep gitmo open and fill it with bad dudes." That made my heart sing.

Meanwhile, the Christian genocide going on in Iraq - Kerry and Obama have one week to officially classify it as "Genocide". Any bets that Obama - who hearts Islam, will deny it?

virgil xenophon said...

@AprilApple/

As I've commented here before and at Althouse to you previously on this subj, only Trump can bring over to the GOP blue-collar Reagan Democrats, Independents and even blacks and hispanics (the blacks are finally beginning to see the hispanics as a threat and legal hispanics despise illegals as well) and I would remind you that at one point Reagan was 30 points behind Jimmah Carter as well. So, so much for the polls..

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

I understand that Virgil. I do. But - Trump is not Reagan in temperament or linguistic aptitude.

If Trump is really gonna sweep this thing and beat Hillary - I'm all in. Like I have a choice?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

...that said, these are different times. These are Idiocracy times... and the Millennials need winnin'.

Trooper York said...

Trump is saying a lot that is blunt yet reasonable and resonates with so many people who will end up going for him.

Keep listening and your heart will continue to sing.

edutcher said...

Nobody hates Hillary more than The Blonde and she's Trump's biggest booster.

And the hits just keep on comin' - looks like Cruz lost the Chuck Norris endorsement.

AprilApple said...

I understand that Virgil. I do. But - Trump is not Reagan in temperament or linguistic aptitude.

Reagan was not the guy everybody thinks they remember. He was no doctrinaire Conservative, but saw politics as the Art of the Possible - if he had to (and, since he never had a Republican House), he built coalitions. Hell, even Tip O'Neill didn't hate the guy.

Meade said...

Low energy Trump.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

If you want to hear that Trump won the debate - do not scroll and read any of this.

William said...

Reagan called the Soviet Union an evil empire. That statement caused quite a lot of consternation among liberals, perhaps even more than Trump's "Islam hates us" remark. The truth of a remark can be accurately measured by the consternation it causes among liberals........Rubio won some of the exchanges. I liked his remarks on Cuba and Social Security.. He's personable and makes his points in a lucid way. He could lose the next five elections and still be young enough to run another two or three times. He has a future. .....Kasich is an ok guy, but he has pinched shoulders and a too earnest way of making his points. He has successful experience in governing, but his stage presence is not ready for prime time. Past time for him to fold. ........Cruz is very smart, but he's not very likable. It's a weird thing. Trump can, on occasion, be extremely obnoxious, but even when he's obnoxious, he's more likable than Cruz.......Trump will be the nominee.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

From Steve Green:

"Believe me, I haven't even started on her yet."

Trump on Hillary.

Well -- why not?

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

A former Hillary supporter v Hillary.

btw- maybe we should close gitmo? I thought about it over night. Why should we house and feed those cretins? They just need killin. They also need ignoring and we shouldn't give them an excuse to recruit.

edutcher said...

Breitbart thought this was a good debate, FWIW.

AprilApple said...

If you want to hear that Trump won the debate

Ben Shapiro begs to differ.

AprilApple said...

From Steve Green:

"Believe me, I haven't even started on her yet."

Trump on Hillary.

Well -- why not?


Because he's had to deal with pettifogging attacks from lemming-like fanatics for other candidates?

Actually, it's a common bit of irony, such as, "You ain't seen nothin' yet". What the audience thinks is wonderful is merely a prelude to the truly great display to come.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Trump rallies - a mad max convention filled with angry self-righteous Trumpsters.

Pathetic Idiocracy.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

The great display to come is the media/pop-cult turning on Trump. Easy. Like taking candy from a baby. See SNL for starters.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Ben Shapiro sez:

"Trump gets an A not because he says anything of particular value (he never does) or because he has actual solutions (nope) or any basic principles (try again). He gets an A because he’s already winning. All he has to do is keep on winning and avoid a major slip-up. He did that tonight."

Wow. Common core grading. Trump sucks but he gets and A for showing up. winning.

chickelit said...

April, IMHO opinion, Rubio did his best at this debate. I don't know if he did well enough to win all of FLA, but he'll win Miami.

bagoh20 said...

April, I wouldn't normally blame a candidate for violence like that, but as the video shows, he supports that. What else can he expect? I know it's of no concern to our smitten friends here, but it is to a lot of Americans who vote, and what is to gain from it? It's stupid reckless rhetoric calling for violence between Americans.

bagoh20 said...

I just read that the guy who threw that punch has been charged with assault.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Good.

Meade said...

Turns out he threw an elbow, not a fist. Still assault though.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Did you know that Trump is losing to Hillary in 42 of 49 polls

Yawn......

Who is taking those polls. What is the sample size? What is the geographic spread of the data base? What is the demographic make up of the sample? What is the political make up of the sample? What are the questions that are being asked? How are they phrased? Biased leading questions or neutral questions?

Statistics and polls are the most easily distorted mechanisms, especially for those who are not analytical minded and whose gullibility factor is high.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

All of these professional talking heads are bleating through their own biases. Recognize that every person has a bias pro or con about practically everything and then judge their opinions through that bias instead of passively accepting the truth as being prognosticated from on high. I trust my own biases because OBVIOUSLY....I have access to the real truth /sarcasm

Here is an example of opinion bias. I love rhubarb pie. Other people hate rhubarb pie. Rhubarb is good. Rhubarb is bad. Who has the truth. BOTH OF US!!!! What matters is how many other people at the party eat the pie or refuse to eat the pie. It also matters that I ignore their opinion and make the pie anyway.

I also like liver, but since we have a split vote in my household and my husband is basically the one paying for the liver....I don't cook a dinner of liver and onions for us. I make it for myself when he is out of town. That hasn't anything to do with politics, unless you want to relate it to the art of the deal or something :-)

edutcher said...

AprilApple said...

Trump rallies - a mad max convention filled with angry self-righteous Trumpsters.

As opposed to all those lemming-like fanatical venom-spewing Cruzzers?

Dust Bunny Queen said...

I have no words. This is what Ted Cruz is about?

Certainly explains his preaching tone...don't it?

I don't know about you, but THIS makes me more afraid than a mad max convention filled with angry self-righteous Trumpsters.

rcommal said...

Ha! Believe it or not, I was one of the few kids I ever met who would happily eat liver and onions, and whatever vegetable, for dinner followed by a nice slice if rhubarb pie. Anyone under the age of 30 even way back then pretty much thought I was nuts. Man, haven't had calves or beef liver or rhubarb pie in years. Fun memory. Glad you brought those up.

edutcher said...

DBQ, any time April or anybody else talks about Trump's negatives, imagine what the Lefty media would do with that for the next 8 months.

Not to mention Ted and Heidi's much-concealed connections with the banking industry and outfits like the CFR.

rcommal said...

Dang, Ken Copeland is pretty well preserved...and yet again in this thread, DBQ, you have transported me back to another time and place (albeit a different one) just st with a comment.

rcommal said...

TBC, I'd be much more interested in liver and onions and Lord knows rhubarb pie than Copeland these days, but still.

chickelit said...

Ha! Believe it or not, I was one of the few kids I ever met who would happily eat liver and onions, and whatever vegetable, for dinner followed by a nice slice if rhubarb pie.

I miss rhubarb pie. My mother used to make it using her mother's recipe. They both grew their own rhubarb. I've been thinking of making a rhubarb infusion for cocktails. I've never ever seen rhubarb for sale out here. I wonder if it would grow well here.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

haven't had calves or beef liver or rhubarb pie in years.

@ rcommal

I don't even know if you can buy calves liver anymore. Sigh...like butter it is so tender. Chick: We have rhubarb plants in our garden so I make a lot of rhubarb dishes, cakes, pies, jam in season. It doesn't do well in hot climes. You should be able to find it in the produce section in the spring time.

When my husband is out of town, which isn't all that often, I make one of my favorite dinners. Chicken livers floured and sauteed in butter, salt cracked pepper and parsley. Over creamy cheesy polenta** Lots of butter and fresh grated parmesan cheese. Good thing I don't have a cholesterol issue :-) A fresh green salad with balsamic vinegar dressing and orange segements.

As long as I am housebound (rain rain rain) and doing product placement ads, it seems, Golden Pheasant Polenta The best. We buy a bunch of it when ever we see it and when going South on I-5 stop here for a fabulous deli sandwich, buy pounds of polenta and lots of different olives.

Isn't this better than bitching about Trump for a few minutes?

rcommal said...

While I've recently purchased chicken livers, I haven't sought out calves liver or accidentally come across it. However, doing a quick, superficial search, I noted two things: 1) people also refer to it as veal liver and 2) apparently it can be ordered on line. Seemed pricey at glance but again, my search was quick, generic and shallow (and not even local, yet), so... . The point is, apparently it's still sold so maybe you'd want to search California or online in case you want to treat yourself some time, DBQ.

Trooper York said...

When I was a kid the butcher shops would always put the liver in the window or on the counter. A big slab of liver leaking blood. The old grandma's would stop...see it in the window...and buy a big chunk.

Just as you say my grandma would fry it up with onions but she would always pour over a big glass of vinegar. Vinegar that she had made herself so it was very strong and fresh. You would eat slices of the fresh calves livers with onion with a piece of crusty Italian bread in your hand to dip in the juices. Heaven.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Thanks rcommal....I checked out a few links and it appears that I can buy veal and veal liver on line. Omaha Steaks, of all places, carries it. Being out in the sticks, we don't have actual butcher shops like they do in the cities so our cuts of meat at the local market are pretty limited.

I haven't been able to buy veal for years. Even at the butcher shop in the "big" town nearby, veal is pretty much unknown or else you have to special order in conjunction with some other people. They won't order it unless you have a lot of it on order...more than one family needs at a time.

Either you like liver and/or rhubarb (and other things) or you don't. I'm not judgmental that my husband won't eat liver. I just know better than to try to force it on him :-)

ndspinelli said...

Good job ignoring the little, abused, boy. Kudos to all.

Trooper York said...

On of the best things in life is a liverwurst sandwich on a Kasier roll with deli mustard and raw onion. And a cold frosty Root Beer.

Man. That's living.

Trooper York said...

I only made liver once for my bride and she wouldn't touch it. It just has too strong a taste for many people.

If you grew up on old school peasant food you are used to the strong flavor and chewy texture of something like liver. But it in pasteurized homogenized world we live in this is unheard of.

Trooper York said...

Last night I made a delicious omelet for dinner. Gluten free, GMO free organic Chorizo sausages with onion, peppers, zucchini and Braggs amminos.

Fresh organic romaine lettuce with fresh strawberry, walnuts and goat cheese.

Lemon water with a dab of stevia.

Good stuff.

(But still not a liverwurst sandwich)

Trooper York said...

I am sorry to say that I have never tasted rhubarb. I thought that was what you called it when Frank Crosetti argued a close play at third base.

At least that's what Mel Allen used to say!

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Oh man, Trooper that sounds good. Liverwurst on chewy San Francisco sour dough bread, sliced avocados, Bermuda onions, tomato, mayo, mustard and (don't laugh) alfalfa sprouts. My husband has just decided to go see his mom this weekend since it is going to rain rain rain and he has no jobs lined up for a few days.....I think I need to make myself something liverish, livery? Oh...you guys know what I mean.

What wine goes with liverwurst, I wonder? Maybe a nice Reisling or Gewurztraminer

Titus said...

My grandma and mother both had Rhubarb gardens and I loved Rhubarb pie.

I don't eat any sweets now-not because of health issues, I just don't care for sweet things anymore. It may be because I want to keep my 31 inch waist-but I don't think so.

tits and muscles.

Chip Ahoy said...

Is that late already?

A friend just now called. Haven't spoken in ages. Years. Maybe three. Maybe more. Who knows? Time's not my bag. We talked a very long time just now. At one point he complained about being connected with customer service in a remote location and ESL that stands for English as second language which I could have just said but then missed the opportunity to be pedantic about acronyms. He's a character actor at heart. He became animated vocally in his description of his anger about the situation of being hooked up with someone who doesn't understand him. He went on. Acted it out. Vocally.

"Hang on. Have a care or you'll end up voting for Trump."

"Can you believe this crazy shit?"

I wish you could have heard me interview him disinterestedly. I kept getting him to explain to me what it means.

"I think they're just trying to say something."

"What are they trying to say?"

"I don't know. I think they're saying 'fuck you.'"

"Saying to whom?"

"I don't know. The country. I don't know."

"Who are they saying 'fuck you' to?"

"The country, I guess."

"Who in the country are they saying 'fuck you' to?"

"I don't know. Everyone, I guess."

He has some thinking to do. He's quite bright for a dummkopf and resistant to instruction and not nearly so Percy spakeous as you guys but he'll get there. Without my interference.

(He would vote H. Clinton by the loyalty of any worthwhile dog and that is fact stated simply.)

rcommal said...

LOL, I am dying to share something with you that's on point but first I have to ask: 1) Is anyone here following this season's Top Chef and 2) Are you caught up?

rcommal said...

I'll wait to continue, accept to add--relative to people one used to know--I first got turned on to Top Chef for something like or near 9 years ago by a commenter known as soquoted. Anyone remember him? (I think some of you who stayed with Twitter might have known/do still him that way?) Man, time flies. I never did get to Atlanta try Richard Blais' foie gras milkshake, and now that dude's got restaurants around the country.

rcommal said...

"restaurants = Blais, I mean, not soquoted, though I believe Bill was a darned fine home cook, like DBQ, Chip, Trooper etc.

Methadras said...

I didn't watch it. I clearly missed nothing.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Liver has so many of the nutrients that we've been accustomed to shying away from in an era afraid of heart attacks and any food that wasn't processed or already cut neatly enough to look like a uniform piece of steak.

Lately I've been loving some chopped up chicken livers. You can spread them on whatever you want.

The taste came to me from these Russian and Ukrainian guys at work who shop at their own E. European food markets and get their moms, wives and girlfriends to make the borschts and stews and other stuff that they bring in with them. Lately one of them brought in and had me taste a "liver cake". Can you believe such a thing? But it was fucking delicious. Like 7-layer cakes but with savory organ meats between the slices of pastry. I couldn't believe how long I'd been missing out on such a delicacy and immediately sought out as much of anything similar as often as I could.

Trooper York said...

Liver cake is awesome. Glad you got to enjoy it.

I used to get it in this cafe in Brighton Beach in the 1980's.

Meade said...

Very expert. Very elite. Congrats.