At the start of the day and at the end of it, I was and am for you. I don't regret that, no matter what it has cost (and no matter how much and in terms of what we disagree).
How many here can say that they've educated their own children, from the start? Provided for it, paid for it, even done it on their own, for many years--not to mention including the high-school part.
Man-oh-day. Of course there are all of those people out there who say it's so easy and so everyone ought to be able to do it. Of course, I know that the loudest voices are those most interested in blowing up what individuals and individual families not just *can* do but also *do* do.
I am so tempted to call out by name all people here who have been vicious about public education and yet who never on their own did educate and who are not now educating their own children.
Even more am I tempted to call out people who supposedly support homeschooling but yet have no use for the actual people who actually have done that...especially if those same people have the temerity to express opinions.
My take on home-schooling is that it's a stroke of luck for those smart and talented enough to have done it.
The only drawback I can say with confidence is the terrible efficiency: one family, one teacher? Not everyone is cut out to be a teacher or even a tutor. Suppose that one home-schooler was really talented and could home-school two or more families? This could free a less-talented teacher to do something they were better at.
I was educated by public schools. There is no way that my mother or father could have given me the breadth of education that several teachers gave me K-12.
What happened to destroy what I enjoyed and learned from?
Due to our circumstances and how many different sorts of homeschooling families to which we have been exposed over many years now in different states and even regions, I will always defend the concept (and even the principle) of homeschooling. However, I have never tossed out, and never will toss out, the notion that public schools should be tossed out and that parents *ought* either school their own children (including banding together hyper-locally) or pay for private school. That's the sort of rhetorical bullshit that drives me crazy, and can you honestly say that there are *not* so many who just toss out that sort of thing on their way to trying to justify a cheap sort of libertarianism (for thee, now that it doesn't apply to me). Especially if it's "after the fact": that is, after their own circumstances mean that they don't, actually, themselves, have to do what's been prescribed (or, for that matter, proscribed).
That's cheap. That's dishonest. It's too easy. Shorter: It ain't right.
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I think that so many people whom I first met a decade ago think I'm just crazy. Well, perhaps I am crazy. However, I am not *just* that. Do you disagree?
Had we stayed in Iowa, my son this very minute would be, full-stop, enrolled in the local high school, as always intended. Hell, he probably would have spent 7th and likely would have spent 8th grade in the local middle school. Sure, we'd've continued to tweak his education,but--and for good reason--his day-to-day school days would not have been at home.
But, hey, chickelit, life takes different twists and turns, and for that reason--a thing I've understood from early childhood--there is no such thing as one size fitting all, and, more often than not, there is always good reason to be skeptical of those who act (including speak) as if there is such a thing as one size fits all.
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Titus said...
This just in! Smith College, the first in the country, now admits trans!
Those guys will work their balls off to fit in.
Isn't Smith a hot bed of feminismo?
chickelit:
At the start of the day and at the end of it, I was and am for you. I don't regret that, no matter what it has cost (and no matter how much and in terms of what we disagree).
This one's for you, c,l
; )
: /
regards,
l
( Maybe you'd prefer this version, or not
eh, whatever? )
@rcommal:
I like the Doris Day version best.
Thanks for the sweet thoughts!
Didn't Titus use to call them tranis, or trannies?
now they are trans.
Call out:
How many here can say that they've educated their own children, from the start? Provided for it, paid for it, even done it on their own, for many years--not to mention including the high-school part.
Man-oh-day. Of course there are all of those people out there who say it's so easy and so everyone ought to be able to do it. Of course, I know that the loudest voices are those most interested in blowing up what individuals and individual families not just *can* do but also *do* do.
Even as their own children were educated in public schools ...
... free of charge.
I am nonplussed, 2nd definition, by that.
I am so tempted to call out by name all people here who have been vicious about public education and yet who never on their own did educate and who are not now educating their own children.
Even more am I tempted to call out people who supposedly support homeschooling but yet have no use for the actual people who actually have done that...especially if those same people have the temerity to express opinions.
Temptation: I will resist.
Fealty: I do not owe.
Yo! Throughout all of our adult lives have I and my husband paid taxes to support local, public schools. It's not as if that has been optional.
And! We have educated our own child, independently.
So that has gone, because so it goes, and I just want to say, for the record: We are far less whiners than others here are, for what that's worth.
My take on home-schooling is that it's a stroke of luck for those smart and talented enough to have done it.
The only drawback I can say with confidence is the terrible efficiency: one family, one teacher? Not everyone is cut out to be a teacher or even a tutor. Suppose that one home-schooler was really talented and could home-school two or more families? This could free a less-talented teacher to do something they were better at.
I was educated by public schools. There is no way that my mother or father could have given me the breadth of education that several teachers gave me K-12.
What happened to destroy what I enjoyed and learned from?
Also I commend you for your commitment and effort, r,l.
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Also I commend you for your commitment and effort, r,l.
Don't, chickelit: please, do not, especially given the context of your previous comment.
You don't have all of the back-story. Assumption ≠ understanding.
Due to our circumstances and how many different sorts of homeschooling families to which we have been exposed over many years now in different states and even regions, I will always defend the concept (and even the principle) of homeschooling. However, I have never tossed out, and never will toss out, the notion that public schools should be tossed out and that parents *ought* either school their own children (including banding together hyper-locally) or pay for private school. That's the sort of rhetorical bullshit that drives me crazy, and can you honestly say that there are *not* so many who just toss out that sort of thing on their way to trying to justify a cheap sort of libertarianism (for thee, now that it doesn't apply to me). Especially if it's "after the fact": that is, after their own circumstances mean that they don't, actually, themselves, have to do what's been prescribed (or, for that matter, proscribed).
That's cheap. That's dishonest. It's too easy. Shorter: It ain't right.
__
I think that so many people whom I first met a decade ago think I'm just crazy. Well, perhaps I am crazy. However, I am not *just* that. Do you disagree?
Had we stayed in Iowa, my son this very minute would be, full-stop, enrolled in the local high school, as always intended. Hell, he probably would have spent 7th and likely would have spent 8th grade in the local middle school. Sure, we'd've continued to tweak his education,but--and for good reason--his day-to-day school days would not have been at home.
But, hey, chickelit, life takes different twists and turns, and for that reason--a thing I've understood from early childhood--there is no such thing as one size fitting all, and, more often than not, there is always good reason to be skeptical of those who act (including speak) as if there is such a thing as one size fits all.
What happened to destroy what I enjoyed and learned from?
A whole number of things, is my quick response.
Are you asking me to address a particular thing?
If so, I suggest that you state it plain.
; )
I miss earlier days.
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