Wouldn't it be cool if your friends regularly gave you 50 grand just because they know you have bills to pay? You might come to believe there is a career opportunity in friendship. If that sunk in, would you be a really good and reliable friend or a dangerous asshole who needs constant feeding?
Now that it's been spelled out in letters twelve miles high that the MSM is biased, do you think the low information voters will grow skeptical of what they're fed?.......me neither.
Have you heard "It was an Honest Mistake" by The Bravery?
It's one of some six songs I practiced in ASL a couple weeks ago until nailed and then having nailed interest in them passed (too slow and repeaty.) It would be perfect for beginners and it IS a really cool song so I'm a bit surprised to see it's not interpreted. They all have ads attached. The AOL session is interesting.
I see a photo of Stephanopolis in all these tweets this morning and I think, despite your awesome name so fun to say and spell and despite his charming smile and as Ace will say, his ass like a young Kiefer Sullivan, all I manage to see is a proper thid mong with a penis growing out one ear and breasts out the other with kidneys for earrings and testicles for eyeballs and small intestines piling out his nostrils going to large intestines into his mouth with fallopian tubes tying his hair into pigtails with dangling ovaries his irregular uncertain heartbeat palpitating little farts out his ass with each beat. Yes, Stephanopolis, come moderate conservative debates, you and network are so eminently suitable for it.
Stephenopolis: I care so deeply about global AIDS and deforestation that I felt the best and most efficient way to get $5,000 to these very important causes is to run $50,000 through the Clinton Foundation. Get off my back h8rz.
Honestly, it's the fact that he's *donating* to the foundation rather than drawing money from the piggy-bank that surprises me. He's a Clinton vassal, no, a footman in their virtual front hall.
The interesting information isn't that he has his tongue halfway up the Clintons' collective colon, it's that he's paying for the privilege. Apparently everybody kicks up to the boss.
Like I said, until you stop using ALEC and letting Cock Industries write all your legislation for you, no one cares. Except for Republicans. But no one else.
You guys are like the anti-moderates. Not a clue what gets beyond your party base to an actual "majority" position. None at all. No idea of the difference between partisanship and statesmanship. It's pathetic.
This is less of a deal than the fact that Republicans serve on committees that subpoena as witnesses the biggest contributors to their campaigns. A total joke that given shit like that, you'd think anyone would care. They don't.
Wouldn't it be cool if your friends regularly gave you 50 grand just because they know you have bills to pay?
Oh. You mean bills as in CAMPAIGN FINANCE BILLS? That's only like every Republican ever.
Or legislative bills? Yes, Republicans get campaigns financed in exchange for letting their creditors write those bills, also.
Yawn. The phony outrage, does it ever end? Well, I guess not when you're a Republican, running out of clever ways to fuck over the voting public and venting outrage at your opponents for lacking the decency of forgoing election campaigns. For having the gall to run for the public offices that Republicans are too lazy to do anything with other than to rent out to their lobbyist buddies.
The credibility you guys have on these things is negative one-hundred thousand percent. No one is listening. But it's hilarious to see how hysterically you'll whip yourself into enough of an anti-Clinton stupor as to believe that they actually will.
Blame? You really don't get it. It's a question of whether people will pay attention to your ranting and screaming about someone masturbating next door when you're having Roman orgies on your own front lawn. No one cares, given your own corruption. You think your "reasoning" is convincing of anything other than your self-righteousness? Your lack of perspective is astounding. People this stupid deserve to lose. Well, they've already populated their side of the chambers' aisles with complete zombie losers, so I guess in a sense they've already lost.
How are the Koch brothers corrupt? They are not corrupt at all.
Clinton corruption list keeps growing. It's exclusive. Saying - "oh but they are all corrupt" is a strawman.
The list starts way back during Watergate- where she was fired from the investigation for "Lying, Unethical Behavior". and flows like toxic sludge to the future.
The list starts way back during Watergate- where she was fired from the investigation for "Lying, Unethical Behavior". and flows like toxic sludge to the future.
Which is exactly why this bullshit of, "But she's ALSO financially/morally corrupt in taking as many funds as Republicans do!" is a non-starter.
Go after someone for how they're different. Not for how they're just like you and your Kochsuckers and Kochgobblers.
Everyone knows about how they tried to re-segregate NC schools. It's all over YouTube. So your "conspiracy of silence" is not convincing either. Look it up yourself.
You sound like you're too busy swallowing Koch to read the evidence.
Get the Koch out of your mouth and open your eyes to what your Kochlord is up to.
Just because you whore out your vote doesn't mean it will kill you to learn about what those Kochs are up to. Even when they're not in your face, mouth and body you can watch the trouble they cause.
Daniel Indiviglio, in a reaction piece appearing in The Atlantic argues that the Bloomberg article is biased and misleading, asserting that the Bloomberg team "only found eight instances of alleged misconduct by a giant multinational over the span of 63 years".
I'm sure the Koch brothers are the only multinational company to ever have an environmental disaster. Just Koch. We should obsess over them like crazy Harry Reid does. Good thinking.
Meanwhile, The clitnons are going to sell us to the highest bidder and do it cloaked in the power and sanction of government. I don't think the Koch brothers have that kind of power.
I'm sure the Koch brothers are the only multinational company to ever have an environmental disaster. Just Koch. We should obsess over them like crazy Harry Reid does. Good thinking.
They're the only ones that aspire to have (and often achieve) that much power over the legislative process.
Meanwhile, The clitnons are going to sell us to the highest bidder and do it cloaked in the power and sanction of government. I don't think the Koch brothers have that kind of power.
Instead, they have ALEC, and make no secret of the agenda they're selling you out to: Their own. But they do make the facts of what their agenda is all about secret.
The Clintons never tried to forcibly segregate my schools, poison the air I breathe or water I drink, lower my wage, or intimidate the public resource available to me as a citizen into not hearing my voice. I think that, in a contest between them and the Kochs, I'll take the Clintons.
Think of what you're saying, April. You're basically declaring yourself a corporatist.
Are you ok with that? You might want to clarify now, as many conservatives seem to be uninterested in pursuing that agenda. But you may be different. It's not clear.
The Clintons never tried to forcibly segregate my schools, poison the air I breathe or water I drink, lower my wage, or intimidate the public resource available to me as a citizen into not hearing my voice. I think that, in a contest between them and the Kochs, I'll take the Clintons.
Attempting to fix our broken and failing government run school system is daunting and worthy of debate.
It turns out in Wake county, they bus kids in to create diversity. OK. I have no idea if this is good or not, however...
If you get to the bottom of it, there's a lot of misleading information. Typical with the hysterical left.
like this at huffington:
CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story indicated that Americans for Prosperity "bankrolled" the school board campaign. AFP did not directly provide funding. This reference has been removed and additional details about AFP and the role of Wake Cares has been added.
but huffpo never corrected it.
AFP (funded in part by the Koch brothers) is to supposed to have bankrolled the 5 school board members.
A major Democrat donor today entered a guilty plea for to campaign finance fraud and witness tampering. Sant Singh Chatwal was caught in an FBI sting that discovered he had made over $180,000 in illegal campaign contributions to Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, and Kendrick Meek.
There's no point in listening to Ritmo. Don't ever even read anything under his name. He and people like him - garage mahal, Robert Cook - are so utterly, horrifically corrupt that they're basically walking infectious vectors. They breathe in falsehood and exhale lies. They honestly can't see the truth, can't taste it, can't smell it, can't hear it. Their whole world is a sea of horseshit.
Why expose yourself to that? they're lepers, leave them to their filth.
Yup, Mitch. You make no actual argument, but have the keys to the kingdom of absolute political truth. No wonder right-wingers like you are:
1. Creationists, 2. Bible-thumpers, 3. Haters of gays and the poor, 4. Haters of a healthy environment, 5. Haters of a stable ecosystem, 6. Haters of mainstream economics, deficit-reduction, and the sort of policies that we had in years other than 2008 and 1929, 7. Amateur obstetricians and gynecology professors.
Go take your purity and your vulgarity for everyone not interested in those seven Republican commandments and fuck yourself with them. Shove them up your own ass.
As for April, "broken" government is the way Republicans want it to be. They use every chance they get to fulfill that self-fulfilling prophecy by finding ways to make the government become incompetent. By refusing to demand results. By telling the voter that they should get elected for doing less.
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. People hate government shouldn't be running it. They always do and only will make it worse.
Only someone obsessed with their own purity can't understand that.
The collective left bank on a scapegoat. It used to be Bush, now it's Koch. Every time a new layer of corruption in the media or with Harry Reid or Clinton reveals itself - ... Koch is worse!
Check out Mitch's May 8th ode to his own alcoholism. Yep, he's a real Wordsworth. Minus the talent, of course.
But he does seem to be preoccupied with vice. And with self-righteousness.
And with the Holy Mother's glorious empire of earthly power.
That's Mitch for you. An agricultural database guy. Who's religious.
A regular Gregor Mendel. Just with more spittle to foam up his mouth with, when he inevitably loses political arguments.
That's Mitch.
A black-and-white photo. In 2015.
Yep. He's really on top of things. He surely knows the diagnosis to all the world's woes.
It's just not certain which world that would be.
Go fuck yourself, Mitch. Crawl back into the obscurity that you live. A methane-breathing hermit like you has a lot of balls calling someone a "leper."
But then, your dick's not going to jerk itself off.
Every time a new layer of corruption in the media or with Harry Reid or Clinton reveals itself - ... Koch is worse!
Worse than Clinton, no doubt.
Tell us how the Kochs are better than Clinton.
At least the CGI helps people and gets results.
I don't know when the last time was that Bill Gates found an effective outlet for his philanthropy or forward-thinking vision in Charles and David Koch.
Face it. You have an aversion to admitting that you're tying yourself to losers. Your rich underwriters are 19th century energy industry trust-funders and gambling magnates.
Ours feed and vaccinate the world and revolutionize the modern information economy.
But clearly yours are doing something right, politically.
Right-wing control of government gave us 1929 and 2008. Enough said.
Yep. If that was my record, I'd be as afraid as April is of admitting how damaging it was.
They also opposed everything Obama did after 2008 to crawl out of that mess into the best economy in 15 years.
And now they squabble about "90 million unemployed". Well, that's what happens when you count teenagers, children, the retired, and voluntary stay-at-home parents. I thought Repubs thought that last group were a good thing.
Republicans hate facts.
If only they were better at making up credible ones of their own.
Well, you can always count on folks like April et al to believe them.
She's doing her part. I should give her some credit, I guess.
Delusional that the Koch brothers have this much power and sway.
I'd say they own a good chunk of at least 60% of the positions pushed and peddled by Republicans. With them and their allies at ALEC, that's most of Republicanism's string pullers.
Prison reform happens to be one area where they're agitating for the right thing. Sure, even a broken clock's right twice a day, but credit where credit's due.
Republican egos can't take anything less than an acknowledgment of the one thing their masters happen to have gotten right. Well, then there you go. They're right on that one.
2008-now how many people are out of the work force? 90,473,000. Record Number Not in Labor Force--Up Almost 10M Under Obama
So is the country's population, you nimrod.
Oh right. Population growth involves something known as "change" and "change" is not something that RWAs understand.
It was wrong for the country's population to grow significantly in 6 years. It confuses the purity of the right-wing talking point that April's owners must put together to further her party's economic rhetoric.
Maybe next time the country's population could shrink, and then the talking point would actually make sense.
Thanks for helping me to understand how you think about these things, April!
It might make sense to compare Hillary to someone who is actually running for office. The Kochs should be compared to Hillary supporters, a stellar group to be sure. Maybe Ritmo can teach us about some of them, and in the same vein of concerned fairness show us what garbage he can find on them. Then again, maybe they are all fine upstanding citizens, and foreigners just trying to save mankind from wingnuts who love a dirty earth and poverty, and who probably drink heavy crude with their coffee.
Such unbalanced partisanship has no mind - only a mouth, drooling and out of breath.
IIRC, R&B liked hearing his own words in my WFB voice, but I've sort of given that over to notquiteunbuckley but with a Foster Brooks lilt because NQUB sounds drunk most of the time.
My belief is that Hillary (and Bill) learned the Koch/ALEC/Republican graft game well.
Asking me to berate them for playing the fundraising and graft game effectively is stupid. It's like asking someone to bitch about Israel for killing terrorists.
When someone's out to kill you, you simply don't respond to requests (or demands) for unilateral disarmament. It's just dumb.
And that's what you hate about the Clintons. The fact that they can get by in your own financing masturbation game.
It's not a game we asked for. You were the filthy motherfuckers who wanted unlimited money in politics. Not us.
1. Creationists, 2. Bible-thumpers, 3. Haters of gays and the poor, 4. Haters of a healthy environment, 5. Haters of a stable ecosystem, 6. Haters of mainstream economics, deficit-reduction, and the sort of policies that we had in years other than 2008 and 1929, 7. Amateur obstetricians and gynecology professors.
#7 irrevocably belongs to your hero, the blogger who burned out on 7.5 hrs per day.
Meanwhile, the topic at hand is about a fraudulent "journalist" at a mainstream news outlet who lies and pimps the Clintons and hides behind "Aids" and "the children."
Yes, you should give credit where due. Your string of assertions on this thread is embarrassing. Really, there are some of us who like you when your expressed thoughts are cogent and not totally politically locked down.
It isn't like there are no wealthy [more money than Gawd] "doners" who sponsor, influence, and essentially direct the Democratic party. Why do you continue to ignore this simple fact? Money as corruption in government and politics is not a uni-lateral matter...so we can either find ways to direct it positively, or just sit back and be benign. My time working in DOD government tells me that we can fix if, but only if, we will fix it. It will be very hard.
Open eyes will reveal this this anyone...to the simple fact the "color" of influence is DC is "green" and it is bi-partisan, v-e-r-y bipartisan. How else will Ms Clinton amass a $1 Billion + war chest for her campaign of office entitlement?
I'd cite the SIEU, among the most creative of latter day unions, as equally complicite in funding, and I say that as former AFL-CIO skiled tradesman....who has no use for the non-productive unions such as the SIEU. What do they actually build or contribute? Other than rehtoric?
The SIEU is an emarassment to any of us from a skilled tades background....you know where a long apprenticeship is endured (includng STEM education in at least community college) and a certifiction of competetemce is acquired...e.g., "journeyman" at least. The SIEU beclowns the union movement. It confounds the public when they finaly discover that public servants (civil services aka federal civil servants) must volunteer for union membership, as FDR stipulated...it is NOT mandatory) rather than to be arbitrarily to be organized involuntarily, like home care providers or child care providers...whom make less than you'd expect, since their companies charge roughly $20 per hour for that service, e.g, a much lessor share to the worker, who are considered "contractors," thus avoiding more ordinary expenses for a "business" ... but to you those "visiting angels" will cost you $160 pe day for caring for an elderly parent...and in the final stages they usually require 18 hour coverage, or $360 / day...at least half of which goes to the firm, and more to the union, not the provider him or herself. Talk about taking advantage of the working person...most of whom can barely handle the "self-employed" aspects of tax laws. In short, care for the inform or disabled is not the highest totem on their pole. But it should be.
I am familiar because my brother and I had to administer such a program for our mother who'd long ago had gone "round the bend." We loved her none the less and it was her money (thankfully and due to the court's ruling) that provided the support, under intense government scrutiny. None of it was via entitlement government program. Mom needed help and Jerry provided the best he could all told....with nary a single thought of diminished inheritance. Not tone.
I regret to say that Jerry subsequently died, more or less alone, in a nursing facility when his mind also went around the bend. There was just nothing further any of us could do. He died quietly, of diabetes type 1, kidney failure ( a transplant from 20 years earlier), liver failure, and congestive heart disease. The mind was already gone. Let's be honest...how often can you engage someone whose thought processes have deteriorated to the position of knee jerk hostility?
I give his wife great credit for sticking with him to the end...I'd misjudged her thinking that she'd bail...but she did not. In short, she was tougher than me.
Money as corruption in government and politics is not a uni-lateral matter...so we can either find ways to direct it positively, or just sit back and be benign.
But admit it. One party would be ok with doing that, and one would not.
But admit it. One party would be ok with doing that, and one would not.
I will admit no such thing. Both parties are venal money grubbing hogs. The party you imply that would be okay with it would not let the change include BS outfits like the SIEU st al .... how you see a difference amazes me. I worked as a DoD "Fed" for years and saw no difference between Dem & Repub except the lapel pin most of the time. You can paint you wagon anyway you want, it won't make it any prettier.
You can paint you wagon anyway you want, it won't make it any prettier.
"Paint your wagon" brings back memories of the time my parents took my brother and me to the Big Sky Drive In outside of Madison to see that movie. Partway through it, my mother deemed it inappropriate for us kids and we left. I think that was around the time my dad took just us boys to see "The Blue Max" starring George Peppard and Ursula Undress.
Heh, you are not interloping unless you somehow divert the conversation to RFRA or LGBT issues as one notorious commenter is known to do regularly (elsewhere these days, thank the Lawd). :-)
Next, although I've heard many times others find it odd that I am a musical theater fan, it just is...and "Paint Your Wagon" is among my favorites. The Lyrics define my life so far:
Where am I goin'? I don't know Where am I headin'? I ain't certain All I know Is I am on my way
When will I be there? I don't know When will I get there? I ain't certain All that I know Is I am on my way
Gotta dream boy Gotta song Paint your wagon And come along
If you have a dream, by all means, paint your wagon and come along. Besides where else you gonna hear Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood sing a song?
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As Chip would say - Inbred media.
It was a simple mistake. Sure.
Wouldn't it be cool if your friends regularly gave you 50 grand just because they know you have bills to pay? You might come to believe there is a career opportunity in friendship. If that sunk in, would you be a really good and reliable friend or a dangerous asshole who needs constant feeding?
Now that it's been spelled out in letters twelve miles high that the MSM is biased, do you think the low information voters will grow skeptical of what they're fed?.......me neither.
Should that be MSM are biased? Not sure.
Stehpanopolis dutifully grilled author of Clinton Cash and extracted the quote the Clinton campaign are now using to dispel their corruption.
The GOP must not allow partisan hacks masquerading as "journalists" to moderate any debates.
But they will.
The median wage in the US per person is $26,695 A YEAR.
It's a big chunk o change Stephanopoulos gave.
If you people don't send me $50,000, the local brewery will have to lay off their workers. Then, do you know what will happen?
THEIR CHILDREN WILL STARVE TO DEATH, THAT'S WHAT!
It's no different that Steph's concerns about AIDS and the trees thing.
Have you heard "It was an Honest Mistake" by The Bravery?
It's one of some six songs I practiced in ASL a couple weeks ago until nailed and then having nailed interest in them passed (too slow and repeaty.) It would be perfect for beginners and it IS a really cool song so I'm a bit surprised to see it's not interpreted. They all have ads attached. The AOL session is interesting.
I see a photo of Stephanopolis in all these tweets this morning and I think, despite your awesome name so fun to say and spell and despite his charming smile and as Ace will say, his ass like a young Kiefer Sullivan, all I manage to see is a proper thid mong with a penis growing out one ear and breasts out the other with kidneys for earrings and testicles for eyeballs and small intestines piling out his nostrils going to large intestines into his mouth with fallopian tubes tying his hair into pigtails with dangling ovaries his irregular uncertain heartbeat palpitating little farts out his ass with each beat. Yes, Stephanopolis, come moderate conservative debates, you and network are so eminently suitable for it.
Stephenopolis: I care so deeply about global AIDS and deforestation that I felt the best and most efficient way to get $5,000 to these very important causes is to run $50,000 through the Clinton Foundation. Get off my back h8rz.
Trees and AIDS = Global Clinton Foundation.
ABC expects you to buy it.
Honestly, it's the fact that he's *donating* to the foundation rather than drawing money from the piggy-bank that surprises me. He's a Clinton vassal, no, a footman in their virtual front hall.
The interesting information isn't that he has his tongue halfway up the Clintons' collective colon, it's that he's paying for the privilege. Apparently everybody kicks up to the boss.
Heh. It gets even more inbred
The interesting information isn't that he has his tongue halfway up the Clintons' collective colon, it's that he's paying for the privilege.
Perks and paybacks. Paybacks and perks. The Clitnons have had a hand in making loyal Stephanop a rich man.
Like I said, until you stop using ALEC and letting Cock Industries write all your legislation for you, no one cares. Except for Republicans. But no one else.
You guys are like the anti-moderates. Not a clue what gets beyond your party base to an actual "majority" position. None at all. No idea of the difference between partisanship and statesmanship. It's pathetic.
This is less of a deal than the fact that Republicans serve on committees that subpoena as witnesses the biggest contributors to their campaigns. A total joke that given shit like that, you'd think anyone would care. They don't.
Wouldn't it be cool if your friends regularly gave you 50 grand just because they know you have bills to pay?
Oh. You mean bills as in CAMPAIGN FINANCE BILLS? That's only like every Republican ever.
Or legislative bills? Yes, Republicans get campaigns financed in exchange for letting their creditors write those bills, also.
Yawn. The phony outrage, does it ever end? Well, I guess not when you're a Republican, running out of clever ways to fuck over the voting public and venting outrage at your opponents for lacking the decency of forgoing election campaigns. For having the gall to run for the public offices that Republicans are too lazy to do anything with other than to rent out to their lobbyist buddies.
The credibility you guys have on these things is negative one-hundred thousand percent. No one is listening. But it's hilarious to see how hysterically you'll whip yourself into enough of an anti-Clinton stupor as to believe that they actually will.
The soundtrack in your minds is the last one heard by Tony Soprano. Enjoy it!
Blaming Clinton corruption on the Koch brothers.
Delusional.
Hillary promises she is going to clean up campaign finance. Right after she takes a gigantic dump in the ocean.
Blame? You really don't get it. It's a question of whether people will pay attention to your ranting and screaming about someone masturbating next door when you're having Roman orgies on your own front lawn. No one cares, given your own corruption. You think your "reasoning" is convincing of anything other than your self-righteousness? Your lack of perspective is astounding. People this stupid deserve to lose. Well, they've already populated their side of the chambers' aisles with complete zombie losers, so I guess in a sense they've already lost.
Who are you calling a Cock, R&B, Bill Clinton's cigar?
How are the Koch brothers corrupt?
They are not corrupt at all.
Clinton corruption list keeps growing. It's exclusive. Saying - "oh but they are all corrupt" is a strawman.
The list starts way back
during Watergate- where she was fired from the investigation for "Lying, Unethical Behavior". and flows like toxic sludge to the future.
It doesn't matter. You'll make up your own facts. That's what RWAs do.
But here they are anyway:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/koch-brothers-school-segregation-americans-prosperity
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/apr/04/charles-koch/epa-koch-brothers-business-environment/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legislative_Exchange_Council#Corporate_influence_and_allegations_of_lobbying_activity
Look! The side effect of being a Kochsucker is that you might come down with cock cancer! Wonderful.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/04/30/3432796/koch-getting-sued/
http://www.truth-out.org/article/item/3929:why-do-these-koch-industries-neighbors-have-cancer#
For how long have you been a kochsucker, April?
LOL - motherjones and politifraud.
Epicenter of fine tuned information.
The list starts way back
during Watergate- where she was fired from the investigation for "Lying, Unethical Behavior". and flows like toxic sludge to the future.
Which is exactly why this bullshit of, "But she's ALSO financially/morally corrupt in taking as many funds as Republicans do!" is a non-starter.
Go after someone for how they're different. Not for how they're just like you and your Kochsuckers and Kochgobblers.
Everyone knows about how they tried to re-segregate NC schools. It's all over YouTube. So your "conspiracy of silence" is not convincing either. Look it up yourself.
Environmental and safety record[edit]
Bloomberg reports that from 1999 to 2003, Koch Industries was assessed "more than $400 million in fines, penalties and judgments."[44] Daniel Indiviglio, in a reaction piece appearing in The Atlantic argues that the Bloomberg article is biased and misleading, asserting that the Bloomberg team "only found eight instances of alleged misconduct by a giant multinational over the span of 63 years".[45]
In 2000, for its 300 reported oil spills which had taken place across six states, Koch paid the largest civil fine ever imposed on a company under any federal environmental law for the illegal discharge of crude oil and petroleum products. In a settlement with the U.S. Justice Department and the state of Texas, the company agreed to pay a "$30 million civil penalty, improve its leak-prevention programs and spend $5 million on environmental projects."[46][47][48][49][50][51]
In 1996, an 8-inch-diameter steel LPG pipeline operated by Koch Pipeline Company ruptured near Lively, Texas and began leaking butane gas. The vapor cloud ignited when two residents drove their pickup truck through the flammable vapors to get to a neighbor's house to call 9-1-1 to report the leak. The two were killed in the explosion, and approximately 25 families were later evacuated from the neighborhood without injury. An investigation conducted by the NTSB found that the pipe section which failed had not been shown to have excessive corrosion in a 1995 inspection. Regulations at the time did not provide criteria for "adequate cathodic protection."[52] Koch also stated that the bacteria-induced corrosion acted quicker than had ever previously been recorded in the industry. The explosion was the only event of its kind in the company’s history. In 1999, a Texas jury found that negligence had led to the rupture of the Koch pipeline and awarded the victims' families $296 million - "the largest compensatory damages judgment in a wrongful death case against a corporation in U.S. history".[44][53]
In 2000, a federal grand jury returned a 97-count indictment against Koch Industries and its individual employees for environmental crimes relating to excess emissions of 85 metric tons of benzene, a known carcinogen.[54][55] In 2001, Koch Industries was fined $20 million, of which $10 million was a criminal fine and $10 million to clean up the environment.[56]
Keep those blinders on, April. Ignorance and self-righteousness and fucking over the public is what Republicanism is all about.
You sound desperate.
You sound like you're too busy swallowing Koch to read the evidence.
Get the Koch out of your mouth and open your eyes to what your Kochlord is up to.
Just because you whore out your vote doesn't mean it will kill you to learn about what those Kochs are up to. Even when they're not in your face, mouth and body you can watch the trouble they cause.
Stop worrying about me and start worrying about all the Koch you're sucking.
It's bad for your health. And everyone else's.
Daniel Indiviglio, in a reaction piece appearing in The Atlantic argues that the Bloomberg article is biased and misleading, asserting that the Bloomberg team "only found eight instances of alleged misconduct by a giant multinational over the span of 63 years".
I'm sure the Koch brothers are the only multinational company to ever have an environmental disaster. Just Koch. We should obsess over them like crazy Harry Reid does. Good thinking.
Meanwhile, The clitnons are going to sell us to the highest bidder and do it cloaked in the power and sanction of government. I don't think the Koch brothers have that kind of power.
I'm sure the Koch brothers are the only multinational company to ever have an environmental disaster. Just Koch. We should obsess over them like crazy Harry Reid does. Good thinking.
They're the only ones that aspire to have (and often achieve) that much power over the legislative process.
Meanwhile, The clitnons are going to sell us to the highest bidder and do it cloaked in the power and sanction of government. I don't think the Koch brothers have that kind of power.
Instead, they have ALEC, and make no secret of the agenda they're selling you out to: Their own. But they do make the facts of what their agenda is all about secret.
The Clintons never tried to forcibly segregate my schools, poison the air I breathe or water I drink, lower my wage, or intimidate the public resource available to me as a citizen into not hearing my voice. I think that, in a contest between them and the Kochs, I'll take the Clintons.
Think of what you're saying, April. You're basically declaring yourself a corporatist.
Are you ok with that? You might want to clarify now, as many conservatives seem to be uninterested in pursuing that agenda. But you may be different. It's not clear.
The Clintons never tried to forcibly segregate my schools, poison the air I breathe or water I drink, lower my wage, or intimidate the public resource available to me as a citizen into not hearing my voice. I think that, in a contest between them and the Kochs, I'll take the Clintons.
You really are ridiculous.
And you are a slave to your owner.
Don't worry. Bill Cosby had his defenders, too.
Until he didn't.
Blinders are strong things - for the people who hate not being able to simplify.
Bind them tightly. Keep those blinders on. Hold them with both hands.
Attempting to fix our broken and failing government run school system is daunting and worthy of debate.
It turns out in Wake county, they bus kids in to create diversity. OK. I have no idea if this is good or not, however...
If you get to the bottom of it, there's a lot of misleading information. Typical with the hysterical left.
like this at huffington:
CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story indicated that Americans for Prosperity "bankrolled" the school board campaign. AFP did not directly provide funding. This reference has been removed and additional details about AFP and the role of Wake Cares has been added.
but huffpo never corrected it.
AFP (funded in part by the Koch brothers) is to supposed to have bankrolled the 5 school board members.
Lets assume the Koch brothers are the worst of the worst, just as you insist.
They are not running for office. The Clintons take millions from unsavory characters. Law breakers in fact.
Some of Clintons international donors have served time in prison for fraud.
Several big donors to Hillary Clinton now facing criminal allegations
Clinton donors implicated in Swiss Tax scheme
NY Times
A major Democrat donor today entered a guilty plea for to campaign finance fraud and witness tampering. Sant Singh Chatwal was caught in an FBI sting that discovered he had made over $180,000 in illegal campaign contributions to Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, and Kendrick Meek.
There's no point in listening to Ritmo. Don't ever even read anything under his name. He and people like him - garage mahal, Robert Cook - are so utterly, horrifically corrupt that they're basically walking infectious vectors. They breathe in falsehood and exhale lies. They honestly can't see the truth, can't taste it, can't smell it, can't hear it. Their whole world is a sea of horseshit.
Why expose yourself to that? they're lepers, leave them to their filth.
Come to think of it, I do feel like a shower.
Yup, Mitch. You make no actual argument, but have the keys to the kingdom of absolute political truth. No wonder right-wingers like you are:
1. Creationists,
2. Bible-thumpers,
3. Haters of gays and the poor,
4. Haters of a healthy environment,
5. Haters of a stable ecosystem,
6. Haters of mainstream economics, deficit-reduction, and the sort of policies that we had in years other than 2008 and 1929,
7. Amateur obstetricians and gynecology professors.
Go take your purity and your vulgarity for everyone not interested in those seven Republican commandments and fuck yourself with them. Shove them up your own ass.
As for April, "broken" government is the way Republicans want it to be. They use every chance they get to fulfill that self-fulfilling prophecy by finding ways to make the government become incompetent. By refusing to demand results. By telling the voter that they should get elected for doing less.
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. People hate government shouldn't be running it. They always do and only will make it worse.
Only someone obsessed with their own purity can't understand that.
The collective left bank on a scapegoat. It used to be Bush, now it's Koch.
Every time a new layer of corruption in the media or with Harry Reid or Clinton reveals itself - ... Koch is worse!
Check out Mitch's May 8th ode to his own alcoholism. Yep, he's a real Wordsworth. Minus the talent, of course.
But he does seem to be preoccupied with vice. And with self-righteousness.
And with the Holy Mother's glorious empire of earthly power.
That's Mitch for you. An agricultural database guy. Who's religious.
A regular Gregor Mendel. Just with more spittle to foam up his mouth with, when he inevitably loses political arguments.
That's Mitch.
A black-and-white photo. In 2015.
Yep. He's really on top of things. He surely knows the diagnosis to all the world's woes.
It's just not certain which world that would be.
Go fuck yourself, Mitch. Crawl back into the obscurity that you live. A methane-breathing hermit like you has a lot of balls calling someone a "leper."
But then, your dick's not going to jerk itself off.
Leftist policies lead to poverty. So therefore, the democrats must hate the poor. Just ask democrat controlled cities like Detroit and Baltimore.
oh wait. shhh. no - Koch!
Balls - breathe deep into the paper bag - back and forth back and forth. Now - get a drink and go play jerky boy with a photo of Hillary.
Every time a new layer of corruption in the media or with Harry Reid or Clinton reveals itself - ... Koch is worse!
Worse than Clinton, no doubt.
Tell us how the Kochs are better than Clinton.
At least the CGI helps people and gets results.
I don't know when the last time was that Bill Gates found an effective outlet for his philanthropy or forward-thinking vision in Charles and David Koch.
Face it. You have an aversion to admitting that you're tying yourself to losers. Your rich underwriters are 19th century energy industry trust-funders and gambling magnates.
Ours feed and vaccinate the world and revolutionize the modern information economy.
But clearly yours are doing something right, politically.
Not sure what that is, though.
Maybe Mitch can tell us.
Leftist policies lead to poverty.
Right-wing control of government gave us 1929 and 2008. Enough said.
Yep. If that was my record, I'd be as afraid as April is of admitting how damaging it was.
They also opposed everything Obama did after 2008 to crawl out of that mess into the best economy in 15 years.
And now they squabble about "90 million unemployed". Well, that's what happens when you count teenagers, children, the retired, and voluntary stay-at-home parents. I thought Repubs thought that last group were a good thing.
Republicans hate facts.
If only they were better at making up credible ones of their own.
Well, you can always count on folks like April et al to believe them.
She's doing her part. I should give her some credit, I guess.
Delusional that the Koch brothers have this much power and sway.
It's a scapegoat for your own failures.
2008-now how many people are out of the work force? 90,473,000.
Record Number Not in Labor Force--Up Almost 10M Under Obama
Koch!
Delusional that the Koch brothers have this much power and sway.
I'd say they own a good chunk of at least 60% of the positions pushed and peddled by Republicans. With them and their allies at ALEC, that's most of Republicanism's string pullers.
Prison reform happens to be one area where they're agitating for the right thing. Sure, even a broken clock's right twice a day, but credit where credit's due.
Republican egos can't take anything less than an acknowledgment of the one thing their masters happen to have gotten right. Well, then there you go. They're right on that one.
Anything else they're doing right?
2008-now how many people are out of the work force? 90,473,000.
Record Number Not in Labor Force--Up Almost 10M Under Obama
So is the country's population, you nimrod.
Oh right. Population growth involves something known as "change" and "change" is not something that RWAs understand.
It was wrong for the country's population to grow significantly in 6 years. It confuses the purity of the right-wing talking point that April's owners must put together to further her party's economic rhetoric.
Maybe next time the country's population could shrink, and then the talking point would actually make sense.
Thanks for helping me to understand how you think about these things, April!
U.S. Census Bureau says we're up twelve million Americans since 2010.
There goes the government for you! Ruining April's talking point! How mean.
Kill the government so that we can't let their facts get in the way of our propaganda, squeals the right-wing!
Enjoy your shower, April!
It might make sense to compare Hillary to someone who is actually running for office. The Kochs should be compared to Hillary supporters, a stellar group to be sure. Maybe Ritmo can teach us about some of them, and in the same vein of concerned fairness show us what garbage he can find on them. Then again, maybe they are all fine upstanding citizens, and foreigners just trying to save mankind from wingnuts who love a dirty earth and poverty, and who probably drink heavy crude with their coffee.
Such unbalanced partisanship has no mind - only a mouth, drooling and out of breath.
I've only read halfway through and I'm expecting R&B to go ALL CAPS BY THE END OF THE THREAD.
Let the record show that R&B is pro-Hillary.
Who shall I voice him as in future chirbits? (keep in mind that Hillary will be voiced as Nixon).
IIRC, R&B liked hearing his own words in my WFB voice, but I've sort of given that over to notquiteunbuckley but with a Foster Brooks lilt because NQUB sounds drunk most of the time.
Maybe the churlish Brit does suit him.
Let the record show that R&B is pro-Hillary.
My belief is that Hillary (and Bill) learned the Koch/ALEC/Republican graft game well.
Asking me to berate them for playing the fundraising and graft game effectively is stupid. It's like asking someone to bitch about Israel for killing terrorists.
When someone's out to kill you, you simply don't respond to requests (or demands) for unilateral disarmament. It's just dumb.
And that's what you hate about the Clintons. The fact that they can get by in your own financing masturbation game.
It's not a game we asked for. You were the filthy motherfuckers who wanted unlimited money in politics. Not us.
So deal.
Click clack.
Rhythm and Balls said...
No wonder right-wingers like you are:
1. Creationists,
2. Bible-thumpers,
3. Haters of gays and the poor,
4. Haters of a healthy environment,
5. Haters of a stable ecosystem,
6. Haters of mainstream economics, deficit-reduction, and the sort of policies that we had in years other than 2008 and 1929,
7. Amateur obstetricians and gynecology professors.
#7 irrevocably belongs to your hero, the blogger who burned out on 7.5 hrs per day.
#7 irrevocably belongs to your hero, the blogger who burned out on 7.5 hrs per day.
Oh, really? So much so to sponsor and write this monstrosity of legislation?
Talk about over-regulating. Get those Republicans up the vagina! Rawhide!
Bonobos are into sex, not masturbation.
Meanwhile, the topic at hand is about a fraudulent "journalist" at a mainstream news outlet who lies and pimps the Clintons and hides behind "Aids" and "the children."
What a loser.
George W Bush has done more for Aids around the world than the fraudulent Clinton foundation.
April Apple said...
Right after she takes a gigantic dump ...
Ewwww...that visual will not leave my head for a while. Thanks a pantload :-)
Rhythm and Balls said...
I should give her some credit, I guess
Yes, you should give credit where due. Your string of assertions on this thread is embarrassing. Really, there are some of us who like you when your expressed thoughts are cogent and not totally politically locked down.
It isn't like there are no wealthy [more money than Gawd] "doners" who sponsor, influence, and essentially direct the Democratic party. Why do you continue to ignore this simple fact? Money as corruption in government and politics is not a uni-lateral matter...so we can either find ways to direct it positively, or just sit back and be benign. My time working in DOD government tells me that we can fix if, but only if, we will fix it. It will be very hard.
Open eyes will reveal this this anyone...to the simple fact the "color" of influence is DC is "green" and it is bi-partisan, v-e-r-y bipartisan. How else will Ms Clinton amass a $1 Billion + war chest for her campaign of office entitlement?
I'd cite the SIEU, among the most creative of latter day unions, as equally complicite in funding, and I say that as former AFL-CIO skiled tradesman....who has no use for the non-productive unions such as the SIEU. What do they actually build or contribute? Other than rehtoric?
The SIEU is an emarassment to any of us from a skilled tades background....you know where a long apprenticeship is endured (includng STEM education in at least community college) and a certifiction of competetemce is acquired...e.g., "journeyman" at least. The SIEU beclowns the union movement. It confounds the public when they finaly discover that public servants (civil services aka federal civil servants) must volunteer for union membership, as FDR stipulated...it is NOT mandatory) rather than to be arbitrarily to be organized involuntarily, like home care providers or child care providers...whom make less than you'd expect, since their companies charge roughly $20 per hour for that service, e.g, a much lessor share to the worker, who are considered "contractors," thus avoiding more ordinary expenses for a "business" ... but to you those "visiting angels" will cost you $160 pe day for caring for an elderly parent...and in the final stages they usually require 18 hour coverage, or $360 / day...at least half of which goes to the firm, and more to the union, not the provider him or herself. Talk about taking advantage of the working person...most of whom can barely handle the "self-employed" aspects of tax laws. In short, care for the inform or disabled is not the highest totem on their pole. But it should be.
I am familiar because my brother and I had to administer such a program for our mother who'd long ago had gone "round the bend." We loved her none the less and it was her money (thankfully and due to the court's ruling) that provided the support, under intense government scrutiny. None of it was via entitlement government program. Mom needed help and Jerry provided the best he could all told....with nary a single thought of diminished inheritance. Not tone.
I regret to say that Jerry subsequently died, more or less alone, in a nursing facility when his mind also went around the bend. There was just nothing further any of us could do. He died quietly, of diabetes type 1, kidney failure ( a transplant from 20 years earlier), liver failure, and congestive heart disease. The mind was already gone. Let's be honest...how often can you engage someone whose thought processes have deteriorated to the position of knee jerk hostility?
I give his wife great credit for sticking with him to the end...I'd misjudged her thinking that she'd bail...but she did not. In short, she was tougher than me.
Balls -- The facts on Citizens United
Geraldo fired from ABC for 200$ donation.
Money as corruption in government and politics is not a uni-lateral matter...so we can either find ways to direct it positively, or just sit back and be benign.
But admit it. One party would be ok with doing that, and one would not.
But admit it. One party would be ok with doing that, and one would not.
It looks like* the leading member of the party that wouldn't will.
I laugh at the Democrats for letting this hypocrisy fester.
Shades of Freud, man. Shades of Freud.
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* "Looks like" is not the same as "is" but in HRC's case what difference does it make?
R & B said ...
But admit it. One party would be ok with doing that, and one would not.
I will admit no such thing. Both parties are venal money grubbing hogs. The party you imply that would be okay with it would not let the change include BS outfits like the SIEU st al .... how you see a difference amazes me. I worked as a DoD "Fed" for years and saw no difference between Dem & Repub except the lapel pin most of the time. You can paint you wagon anyway you want, it won't make it any prettier.
You can paint you wagon anyway you want, it won't make it any prettier.
"Paint your wagon" brings back memories of the time my parents took my brother and me to the Big Sky Drive In outside of Madison to see that movie. Partway through it, my mother deemed it inappropriate for us kids and we left. I think that was around the time my dad took just us boys to see "The Blue Max" starring George Peppard and Ursula Undress.
@Aridog: Forgive me for interloping. I think R&B is busy elsewhere throwing spanners in the works.
chickelit ...
Heh, you are not interloping unless you somehow divert the conversation to RFRA or LGBT issues as one notorious commenter is known to do regularly (elsewhere these days, thank the Lawd). :-)
Next, although I've heard many times others find it odd that I am a musical theater fan, it just is...and "Paint Your Wagon" is among my favorites. The Lyrics define my life so far:
Where am I goin'?
I don't know
Where am I headin'?
I ain't certain
All I know
Is I am on my way
When will I be there?
I don't know
When will I get there?
I ain't certain
All that I know
Is I am on my way
Gotta dream boy
Gotta song
Paint your wagon
And come along
If you have a dream, by all means, paint your wagon and come along. Besides where else you gonna hear Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood sing a song?
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