“Right now, governors are the most popular political players in the country, mainly because of the dysfunction in Washington and because the public perceives governors as being bipartisan, pragmatic and able to work things out,” said Bill Richardson, a former governor of New Mexico and Democratic candidate for president in 2008. “Governors are the hot political items right now.”
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A Governor Reagan would be great to find.
Anybody know where we could find him?
Pro-democrat media seeding the opinion that they want Christie as the R nominee.
The media like to mention that Rick Scott is "unpopular". Is he? The AP said as much the other day. The pro-democrat hack media echo the propaganda with their opinion and unified talking points masquerading as news.
It's all a colossal set-up.
Christie has some things going for him
He's gone to war with the public employee unions in NJ.
Christie also has a lot of dirt in his past. All of which will be used against him after the media and the democrat party select him for us. Add a nice libertarian candidate to the mix, one who is heavily and privately subsidized by Clinton/Obama donors, and the mashed potato personally Hillary wins by a hair. That's all it takes.
Hillary looked invincible last time around too, and didn't prove to be.
April, I live in Florida, and I don't know anyone that thinks Governor Butt Plug is doing a good job. Which isn't to say he won't get reelected, but no one really seems to like him. The probable choice of Scott v Crist is a fucking nightmare scenario. Everyone (including Dems) yearns for the return of Jeb.
"Walker's much-anticipated Medicaid announcement was part of a broader speech about his plans for overhauling entitlement programs in Wisconsin, which he said will include requiring people who receive unemployment insurance to search for jobs four times a week and requiring able-bodied adults without children to get job training to receive food stamps."
"[Wisconsin] Democrats and health care advocates previously criticized the governor's earlier decision to not create a state-run marketplace, instead deferring to the federal government to create health care exchanges.
Those exchanges would now be a key aspect of Walker's proposal, which includes tightening the threshold for Medicaid eligibility to individual adults with an annual income of $11,490, and a family of four with an annual income of $23,550, or 100 percent of the federal poverty level.
Department of Health Services Secretary Dennis Smith said that under Walker's plan, about 87,000 people currently using Medicaid would no longer be eligible and would need to purchase insurance through the exchanges, while another 82,000 would become eligible for Medicaid because the enrollment cap would be lifted. That would amount to about 5,000 fewer adults on Medicaid in Wisconsin."
Walker reject Medicaid expansion
ST, I think her head will explode if she doesn't get in this time. So you like Christie?
From your link, Deborah -
Scott Walker says:
"My goal in looking at this is two things: One, I want to have fewer people in the state who are uninsured, but along with that I'd like to have fewer people in the state who are dependent on the government."
A worthy goal that will be vilified.
"personally" should be "personality". (ergh)
Icepick - I see. Does everyone call him Governor Butt Plug?
Don't know enough about Christie to know if I support him.
My girlfriend lives in NJ, and she loves Christie because he took on the public employees' union.
The issue there is the explosion in real estate taxes to pay for the cushy benefits and retirement of those wonderfully self-sacrificing public workers.
April, if Obama were smart he would seize upon the example of Walker to demonstrate fiscal responsibility. He would look bi-partisan and serious.
Ice, how long have you been in Florida?
Thanks, ST. Whatever are we going to do with those pesky boomers?
Icepick - I see. Does everyone call him Governor Butt Plug?
That's just me, because he looks like a butt plug in a suit. Most just call him dick or ass. And even most of the people that voted for him last time are aware that (a) he bought that election (he spend a lot of his personal fortune overwhelming the competition) and (b) are aware of his somewhat shady past as a healthcare executive.
Look, I'm sure he's got some support somewhere. And as I said, he may well win re-election. But I don't know anyone that thinks he's doing a particularly good job, and the crowd I run with is a pretty solidly Republican crowd. (As opposed to the crowd I live around, which is overwhelmingly Democratic.)
He also pales in comparison to Jeb Bush, who had the advantage of being governor during good times. But even when things were bad (four major hurricanes hitting the state in six weeks time in 2004) you always saw Jeb out and about busting ass and getting things done.* He was a hard governor to follow, and Crist and Scott have not lived up to Jeb's standards.
* Jeb seemed to be everywhere after the hurricanes started hitting. He even got one of his brothers to hand out water bottles to people in need. In fact, that brother put off debate prep to hand out the water bottles. GW Bush may not have done well in the following debate, but his simple work handing out water probably helped his re-election effort more than a decent debate performance would have.
Ice, how long have you been in Florida?
Born here in 1968. Lived in Orlando from 1968 to the end of 1994. Lived in Gainesville, Florida from 1995 to 2000. Spent three years from 2000 to 2003 in Maryland before returning to Orlando. Been here ever since.
So 42+ out of 45+ years.
The funny thing is I'm living in the house I grew up in, in the place I grew up, and I'm as far from home as when I lived in Maryland.
Pro-democrat media seeding the opinion that they want Christie as the R nominee.
Richardson could also be a pal of one of the Democratic governors he'd like for the Dem's pres. nominee in 2016 rather than Hillary. He did, after all, pick Obama over her in 2008, and heaped great loads of praise upon him. And he had been really tight with the Clintons. Something tells me they're no longer talking.
Anyone know if he's a friend of governors Deval Patrick, Andrew Cuomo, or Michael O'Malley?
This is more fluffing of Governor Christie.
The main stream media is desperate to anoint him as the Republican candidate so they can savage him with his skeletons after he gets the nomination.
Christie is the preferred Republican candidate of Chris Matthews, Joe Klein, Ezra Klein, the New York Times, Paul Gigot, MSNBC, Candy Crowley, Bob Scheiffer, Jon Stuart, A Reasonable Man, Phx, Olympia Snowe and Hillary Clinton.
Luckily there is no chance he can win a Republican primary. He is Giuliani redux.
The friend of my enemy is not my candidate.
Ice, why did I think you lived in Detroit, for Pete's sake?
Does anyone here live in Detroit?
Ice, why did I think you lived in Detroit, for Pete's sake?
I have no idea, LOL! I flew in and out of Detroit's airport once, back in 2004 or 2005, on the way to a business conference in Ann Arbor, but that's it. And let me tell ya, there's nothing like Ann Arbor in January to make you appreciate not being in Ann Arbor in January.
The main stream media is desperate to anoint him as the Republican candidate so they can savage him with his skeletons after he gets the nomination.
The theme of the 2016 Republican primaries: Skeletons in the closet versus bats in the belfry.
I think voters might go for the first with Christie rather than the second with, say, Rand Paul or Ted Cruz and their crazy-uncle-up-in-attic fathers.
And about those Christie skeletons, here’s Double Down: Game Change 2012:
"His 'disturbing' research file is littered with 'garish controversies,' the authors write: a Justice Department investigation into his free-spending ways as U.S. attorney, his habit of steering government contracts to friends and political allies, a defamation lawsuit that emerged during a 1994 run for local office, a politically problematic lobbying career that included work on behalf of a financial firm that employed Bernie Madoff.”
None of that sounds much different than all the shady (and worse) stuff Hillary has in her record. Would she really want to open up that kind of fight over whose closet has the ugliest skeletons?
He is just a replay of the Giuliani run. A supposedly tough socially liberal but fiscally conservative northeast politician who got elected and re-elected in a overwhelmingly Democratic place.
Christie is not tougher than Giuliani.
Christie does not have the record of accomplishment that Giuliani had as mayor and after 911.
Loudmouth tough guys from Jersey or New York will not sell out in the rest of the country.
The difference with HIllary's skeletons is that the main stream media will cover it up.
Just as they did with Benghazi to this very day.
Christies problems will be pounded into the minds of the low information voter just as Romney's smallest peccadillos were constant grist for the mill.
I mean Romney was a Mormon happily married to one woman for many years. But they found stuff to hammer him with. He through a woman with cancer off her insurance. His company closed down many businesses to put people out of work. He kept "binders" of women.
Every kind of bullshit that they could throw up against the wall.
While ignoring tons of stuff in Obama's background and his performance in his first term.
We won't get fooled again.
Shouting Thomas said...
@Trooper
How do you fluff a guy who's dick is buried in six inches of belly fat?"
You need butter. Lots and Lots of butter.
Loudmouth tough guys from Jersey or New York will not sell out in the rest of the country.
I don't think that's what doomed Giuliani's bid for the nomination in 2008; I think it was this:
"As New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons, according to previously undisclosed government records."
That was in late November, and by early December, he was slipping badly in polls.
Oh. So the press found out stuff and used it to fatally wound a Republican candidate?
What does that prove exactly other than my point that Christie will be a target.
I was talking about your statement that their tough-guy act would not do well outside their homeground, and that Giuliani's failure was due to something else.
Did you see the weasel performance with George Snuffalufaguous?
It was touted as Christie trying to mend fences with conservatives. He couldn't speak out about the fiasco going on with Iran and refused to take a stance on immigration. He will try to weasel to appeal to the liberal news media instead of being forthright as a conservative. He is not a conservative. He is a liberal Republican who never found a conservative position that he could not abandon without a second thought.
The news media will not be able to force him down the throats of Republican primary voters.
He is Christine Todd Whitman without panties.
Well I am not sure about that.
But lets give him the benefit of the doubt this time. Ok?
Remember this is Bill Richardson saying this, not somebody who's disinterested.
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That's the best comment ever.
Icepick wins the thread.
Troop - Your comments @ 1:56.
thread winners.
@deborah Does anyone here live in Detroit?
I believe Aridog is a Detroiter
Thanks, Icepick. I've had several relatives live in Florida over the years.
Thanks, ampersand, I know Ari said his daughter is a Detroiter.
There's a cartoon by S. Gross. A man standing by an open front door call up the staircase to his wife.
"Honey, it's your mother. She's coverered with flies and shit. Should I let her in?
Hillary always reminds me of that old cartoon.
That must be guy humor, not sure I get it. And is Hillary the mom or the wife :)
Okay, we now have the official NYT-approved list of acceptable governors. They actually don't like any of them, but it's a nice way of saying "pleeze pleeeeze run Christie because we have so much shit we will drop on him ten days before the election that we can barely stop from peeing right now!!1!!"
I'll take them seriously when they say nice things about Scott Walker, Sarah Palin or Mitch Daniels.
I think this Christie thing is what is known as peaking too early.
You need butter. Lots and Lots of butter
Thanks, Icepick. I've had several relatives live in Florida over the years.
Any of them still here? What do they think of Scott?
And I'd be fuck all more interested in voting for a Walker or Daniels than just about anyone else being batted about.
Icepick @1:41
Thanks for the inside FL account. When a Democrat is unpopular, the media tend to ignore and fluff him/her up. The media are negative on Rick Scott, and one never knows if the news "opinion" is accurate. Sorry to hear your choices are Scott and Crist. Crist needs to go away.
April, Crist won't go away, because he's now backed by the most powerful trial attorney in the state (and one of the most powerful in the country), one John Morgan.
Ice, I had two uncles and a great-uncle who have passed away (all in different parts of Florida). My cousin and his life partner live in Sarasota, and my second-cousin and his wife spend winters down there, but I don't know where. It's really a popular destination.
It's really a popular destination.
Right now where I sit: Sunny, breezy, temp around 80 degrees.
If I'm reading the map correctly, it's about 19 in Bismark, ND right now.
Then again, I had to put socks on last night, as my feet got a little chilly, so perhaps Florida isn't everything it is cracked up to be.
Sounds great. The only time I've been was when said cousin and I drove from Ohio to visit his grandparents. It was June and miserably hot. I need to try it sometime in the winter and see what all the fuss is about.
June can vary from not bad to almost July levels of misery. July and August are when the state is at it's worst, although when I was young that was my favorite time of year.
But even July and August have their compensations. A few years ago there was a miserable heatwave in the mid-Atlantic region. Temps regularly got over 100 degrees and stayed there. A cousin in Virginia would call and complain about the heat and then say, "I can't imagine how bad it is down there!" "Sarah," I'd say, "It's 95 degrees and sticky, just like always."
And THEN I'd get a long string of very creative invective. I'm not sure if she had learned that from her husband (former Army special ops) or her father (hillbilly, and former WWII sailor), but it was good stuff. It just didn't occur to her that the peninsula, surrounded by ocean, has a fairly stable temperature range in the summer. Sometimes it will get over 95 here in Orlando, but usually it doesn't. (Gianesville, a couple hours north, seems to be the hottest part of the state in summer.)
Those guys in SoCal have it pretty good, too, but I prefer the greenery of the South, as well as the greater range in weather. You haven't lived until you've had the eyewall of a hurricane go over your house.
OTOH, Los Angeles remains the only part of the world known to have sharknados, so there's that.
I'm going to go clean the kitchen now. I think I'll put "Couldn't Stand the Weather" on a loop, and just laugh, and laugh, and laugh....
His grandparents were on the Gulf side...Cape Coral, I think. I remember it being very dry, very hot, and on top of that, I got a sunburn on the top of my back, and my wisdom teeth were coming in, so I could barely bite down on my food.
Having lived in Virginia for many a year, I could probably take it much more well, now.
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